Talk:Caribbean Club Championship
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2008 CFU Club Championship
[edit]Does anyone know anything about this tournament? Is it even happening? I've googled the heck out of it, and I can't find a thing. Even the CFU's homepage doesn't have anything more recent than the 3rd place playoff that was played as a CONCACAF Champions League 2008–09 qualifier back in April 2008. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 16:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I have a feeling that it might have been cancelled. None of the relevant websites mention it, and as it is now early December it appears its not happening this year. How they'll work out next season's carribean Champions League qualifiars I'm not sure.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 21:34, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It hasn't been cancelled, I read somewhere it's going to be at the end of january or beggining of february...--BoricuaPR (talk) 01:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Qualifying?
[edit]Aloha-
Does anyone know how the teams are qualified to this competition? The article say's "The winners of each national league qualify automatically" but over the years many associations have entered two teams in the same year (and of course many associations don't enter at all). Is each association allowed to send up to 2 teams each year or are only certain associations allotted 2 spots? If the latter, how on earth are they chosen, since there seems to be no pattern (ie US Virgin Islands some years have 0, some 1, sometimes 2 teams).
On a related side question- Did the Puerto Rico Islanders have to compete in anything within Puerto Rico (like a FA cup or something) or did the PR FA automatically give them a spot? And likewise, how could the Bermuda Hogges (theoretically) qualify (if at all)?
Thank you. --Gecko G (talk) 13:44, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've found some more info that answers part of my question. One the official regulations .pdf file I found the following entries:
- under part I. Title - The CFU Club Champions' Cup, section A.: "National Associations affiliated to the CFU are invited to participate with their National League or Cup Champion and Sub Champion."
- under part II. Entries, Section A.: "The Champions of the highest competitive club category within each of the CFU Member Associations, whereas such Champion team(s) being determined by the result following the completion of the last complete season before the Club Champions Cup Tournament commences, shall have the right to participate in the CFU Club Champions Cup."
- and under part XIII. Elegibility of Players, section A.: "Each participating Association shall select its two (2) National Representative Clubs from the highest level league or cup competition under its jurisdiction."
- So it seems that EVERY CFU member is allowed 2 spots IF they wanted to enter 2 teams and that the criteria is set by each individual FA with only those above guidelines. So the question is, how does the FPF, the Bermudan FA and the various others decide who gets (potentially) spots? Gecko G (talk) 13:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
2010 Qualification?
[edit]Continuing from above section, Many eligible teams decline to participate (there is a entrance fee and travel costs which many can't cover)
Using RSSSF and Wikipedia articles I have info on the following-
Format: Country (eligible season for 2010 Cup {assuming the league is the qualifing competiton}) The two teams that would be eligible to enter followed by notes about if an FA uses a cup to qualify who would instead be the eligible teams
Anguilla (2007-08) Attackers FC, Kicks United FC, unless the Knock-out tournament mentioned is the playoff, then - Sunset Attackers, Roaring Lions.
Antigua & Barbuda (2008-09): SAP, Hoppers (same result in the Cup btw) (side note: Hoppers were 2nd for place for the 2007-08 seaon thus apparently eligible for the CFUCC 2009, presumably 1st place Bassa didn't enter). Wikipedia specifically says one qualifies... Is the other the cup winner or does the FA only allow one or is the wikipedia entry just a wrong assumption?
Aruba (2008-09): SV Britannia, SV La Fama based on playoff, despite a cup
Bahamas): If league- Bears & unknown, If President's cup: Bears, Cavalier, If this BFA Knock-Out Cup then Caledonia (but which Caledonia?) & & Bears. note: The BFA Senior League is apparently a continuation of the New Providence Football League, not the Bahamas National Championship Final, thus it is not the overall domestic champion. The BNCF is contested between the champions of the NPFL, GBFL, and the AFL
Barbados (2009): Presumably based on the league so Brittons Hill & BDF. If instead based on the cup then Youth Milan & Paradise
Bermuda (08/09): presumably based on the league so Devonshire Cougars, Boulevard Blazers. If based on cup then Boulevard Blazers, Dandy Town. But what about the Bermuda Hogges?
In Haiti, Wikipedia claims it is based on the league not the cup, but is it the winners of the Ouverture & Fermeture (and thus the winner and runner up of the Trophée des Champions) or does it go to the winner and runner-up of the Super Huit? If the O & F winners that would make this season's eligible teams Tempête & Racing Club Haïtien, while if it is based on the Super 8 that would make it Baltimore SC & AS Capoise. note: In 2009 Cavaly took part in the CFU Club championship but didn't win either of those competitions.
In Jamaica that would be Tivoli Gardens FC & Portmore United FC. note: in 2009 Portmore United were 1st & Tivoli Gardens were 2nd and the 2009 CFU Club Championship article says that Portmore United withdrew (no info about Tivoli)
In Trinidad & tobago, despite the existance of a number of different Cups, both spots are awarded based on the domestic league. That would make this seasons eligible teams Joe Public and San Juan Jabloteh and apparently the winner (Joe Public) is seeded to the 2nd round.
I'll go through the other countries and add to this as I get more info. Gecko G (talk) 09:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Qualifying (take 2)
[edit]Reytempo found a newpaper article and used that as a source for the qualifying info that he posted. However, the info from that source seems to be based only on the resulting team composition of the last two seasons, not on the actual qualification/eligibility. While the qualifying scheme of the CFU Club championship has never been clearly stated (for example, see some of the above sections on this very talk page) the info from that newspaper article seems arbitrary and leaves out most of the membership of the CFU. Reytempo and I have been discussing that source on our respective talk pages (here & here). Does anyone else have any input on the issue or comment on the reliability of the source in question? Gecko G (talk) 11:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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Participation
[edit]Should the teams participating in the Caribbean Club Shield still be included in participation table in the article? I was leaning towards yes, but I just wanted to ask before I updated it for the current years edition. also, should teams who withdrew before playing matches really be counted in the participation table? there are a few instances where the confederation was listed as having participated, but all of their teams withdrew before playing any matches. Nobreadsticks (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2018 (UTC)