Talk:Bush coconut

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I have been working on this page since early December and will continue until the 13th of January 2022. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Happy Camper 546 (talk) 11:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 11:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Comments

What an interesting article.

• It's usual to have just one image in lead or infobox; further, the diagram would be far better larger, so I suggest you move it down to 'Description' and use |upright=1.5 (or thereabouts) so the diagram labels are big enough to read.

• "Australian bush tucker" is a bit "Sea of Blue"; we don't need Aus to be separately linked here so either unlink it or include it in the bush tucker link.

• "in Indigenous Australian dreaming and used as inspiration in Indigenous Australian artwork." Maybe end with "their artwork" to reduce the repetition.

• Who's Claude Fuller? (needs a gloss)

• Ditto Gullan & Cockburn: say they're entomologists, and replace the second occurrence with "They".

• Description: suggest we also give the Latin name of the bloodwood eucalypt here.

Not sure how to find it including the source. I think were gonna wait for the nominator to be back, but its 50/50 if they will return. 2001:4455:1A9:E100:5948:84F3:288B:A006 (talk) 13:44, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I'd assumed you were them, given you had taken up the mantle. I've fixed it, so we're complete here, good work and thank you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

• "It ['i.e. the gall] is composed of both the gall, the protective case of a female scale insect, as well as the insect itself." Sentence doesn't work for several reasons: you already said it was plant + animal in the sentence before, and if "It"=gall then what is "both the gall and" referring to? I think we should just drop the sentence altogether.

• " the host tree, a bloodwood eucalypt (Corymbia)." Per comment above, please remove this from here, it's getting (very) repetitive. Just end with "host tree." here.

• "The bush coconut forms on the branches and stems of trees of the Corymbia genus." - delete, you said this at the top of the section.

• "is taxonomically classified as a coccid in the genus Cystococcus." Is there any other possible kind of classification in this context? Suggest "is a coccid in the genus Cystococcus", and link genus.

• "Bush coconut gall" (Heading) - drop the Bush coconut, that's the title of the article.

• "The size of the galls varies within and between species. Size generally ranges from that of a golf ball ..." -> "The size of the galls varies within and between species, generally ranging from that of a golf ball ..."

• "The formation of the bush coconut gall" -> "The gall".

• Same sentence, remove "Corymbia tree", you've said this plenty now.

• The whole of paragraph 1 of "Ecology" is standard for all insect-induced galls. Suggest cut down to one short sentence; you could put {{further|Gall}} at the top of the section if you think readers need to read more.

• "The behaviour of the males is called intersexual phoresy." That is marvellously obscure. Please link Phoresis and reword: basically all it means is that the males carry the wingless females, so you're just adding a link to the sentence above. The best thing would be to delete the last sentence and just link, for example as (wikicode follows) [[Phoresis|transported out of the maternal gall on their male brothers' elongated abdomens (phoresis)]] ... find mates. Other solutions are possible.

• "bush tucker and a food source" - same thing?

• "The galls also provide shelter for a number of other arthropods including" -> "The galls provide shelter for arthropods including"

• Paragraph 2 of 'Cultural significance' is just a dictionary of names in various languages (WP:NOTDICT). The section just needs to say that the gall is known to each of the peoples that you've bluelinked, something like "The bush coconut is known to the Arrente of Central Australia, the Gija of Western Australia, and the Warumingu and Warlpiri of Northern Territory, each with their own names for the food source.[19][20][21]".

• Suggest you annotate the See also, something like * Mulga apple - another gall used as bush tucker

• Images are all suitable.

• The bush coconut is not mentioned in the 'Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islanders' template (what a dreadful title!) so please either remove the template or if appropriate insert a link to the article there.

• Ditto for 'Human interactions with insects', where we definitely do not want to link every possible gall; if there's very special reason to include this one, explain here what the reason is.

@Happy Camper 546: – I've struck these two as I see you've done'em, but normally it's your job to reply briefly to each item with "** Done" or something similar. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:12, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

It seems we're almost there. BTW I wasn't inviting you to strike the items, that's my privilege when I've checked your changes... Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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Scope

This article should probably be split, with the current article being solely about the gall, and the insect articles being separate. AryKun (talk) 12:22, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't think so (as reviewer); the insect always forms the gall and the gall is always from this one insect species, so one article is correct. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:47, 13 January 2022 (UTC)