Talk:Broken heart/GA1

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Reviewer: Valereee (talk · contribs) 21:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm starting this review. This will be my first GA review, so I've asked an experienced reviewer to give me some oversight/guidance. valereee (talk) 21:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Valereee! Thanks for taking the time to review this. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 22:51, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing, Jonas Vinther! You can call me Val and refer to me with she, her, hers. I hope we'll have a really productive review. valereee (talk) 00:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So do I, Val. ;) Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 11:52, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

possible copyvio

Hi, Jonas! There are a couple of close paraphrases from sources. In the section Causation/Evolution, the paragraph is pretty close to the referenced source at BPDfamily.com. Ditto in the Causation/Neurobiology section -- close paraphrasing from the source at ns.umich.edu. (If you run a copyvio package like https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/, you'll also find a site called blackhorseequestrian that has obviously copied the entire article at some point into a spam page, so you can ignore that one.) I am willing to keep reviewing, but we won't be able to pass it without fixing these two paragraphs. How would you like to proceed? valereee (talk) 13:52, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Val! Good job in spotting those copyvio's. When I started my improvement of the article, I mainly converted everything into Harv references and believe I only added the JAMA and Mayo Clinic sources. Anyway, I just got home from the longest day ever at work, but I will be sure to reformulate everything suspected of being a copyvio in the article in a few hours. I'll be sure to ping you once I'm done. Thanks again. Best, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 16:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jonas, no huge hurry! Relax, have a ~~drink~~ bubble bath. :) valereee (talk) 17:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How about a drink AND a bubble bath? ;) Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 17:53, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, Val! I have reworded both paragraphs with these two edits. Let me know if you're satisfied and ready to continue. Peace, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 21:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Women hurt more by breakups but recover more fully"

sciencedaily reports on

Craig Eric Morris, Chris Reiber, Emily Roman: Quantitative Sex Differences in Response to the Dissolution of a Romantic Relationship, Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences, 13. July 2015, doi:10.1037/ebs0000054

and also on "An unexpected way to recover from a breakup"

G. M. Larson, D. A. Sbarra: Participating in Research on Romantic Breakups Promotes Emotional Recovery via Changes in Self-Concept Clarity, Social Psychological and Personality Science, May 2015, vol. 6, no. 4, p399-406 doi:10.1177/1948550614563085

-- Cherubino (talk) 04:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. Thanks for the links. I'm planning making a difference with this article today. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 12:04, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well-written

Jonas, great! Okay, so on to the review criteria. First is well-written. I see a few issues, but those are probably easier for me to just go through and deal with instead myself rather than detailing them here so you can go make the edits, so I'm going to go ahead and do that now. valereee (talk) 09:56, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're a kind woman, Val! Let me know if I can help with anything. :) Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 11:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here are my questions so far:

I've been going through the article smoothing out wording and in one case reorganizing content. I've come across a sentence that I can't interpret, and the source is not online. Here's the sentence: "The same researchers mention effect of social stressors on the heart, and personality on perception of pain." I don't know what this means. It doesn't seem to make sense grammatically, and I can't interpret what meaning it is trying to convey. valereee (talk) 11:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What's the difference between Neurobiology and Neurology sections? What I mean is, isn't there significant overlap? valereee (talk) 11:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This entire paragraph is sourced at the Scientific American article, and for the life of me I cannot find any of this in that article. "Researchers have found that the amount of stress is related inversely to the amount of breakup distress.[5] This is because greater distress is felt in a shorter amount of time since the breakup.[5] This is closely related to the perception of pain by how an individual can choose to feel greater distress after a breakup or look at the breakup in a positive way, which decreases their distress, but does not usually happen.[5] Studies show that the most helpful way to get over a broken heart is time and a new partner.[5] Most people look for a desirable new partner to help regulate their daily activities and mood. This is also related to the perception of pain; the individual is unable to handle their pain so they want someone else to make them feel better.[5]" Are you sure this was the article you used to source this section? valereee (talk) 11:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Valereee, it seems quite a few problems were introduced with Wiki-psyc's recent edits. I'll take care of these issues as best I can later as I'm able to do that now. Cheers, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 12:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Scientific American Citation was added on November 3, 2011. This disqualification is not related to any edit of Wiki-psyc whos involvement started in August 2015. [diff #458804183]
Wiki-psyc (talk) 19:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not sufficiently broad in its coverage

This article centers on the clinical aspects of a broken heart ranging from the most common ( uncomplicated grieving) to the very rare (broken heart syndrome/Takotsubo cardiomyopathy).

Missing from this range are the intermediate points of depression and emotional trauma. The most significant clinical consideration of a broken heart is acute depression. The most common reason individuals seek therapy is a broken heart.
Wiki-psyc (talk) 14:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Subheading: Bereavement (wrong term)

Bereavement means a period of mourning after a death [Merriam Webster].

Grieving is the broader and more conventional term covering broken relationship, family deaths, loss of pets. We generally don't bereave our high school sweetheart.

Additionally, researchers have suggested that the term bereavement be used to refer to the fact of the loss; the term grief should then be used to describe the emotional, cognitive, functional and behavioral responses to the death. What is described under the heading of bereavement are aspects of the latter.
see:
|last1=Zisooki|first1=Sidney|last2=Shear|first2=Katherine
|title=Grief and bereavement: what psychiatrists need to know
|journal=World Psychiatry|date=2009 Jun|volume=8|issue=2|page=67–74

The subhead should be changed to Uncomplicated grief or Grief (uncomplicated) .

I'd also suggest making it part of the psychology section. Wiki-psyc (talk) 16:35, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]