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A fact from Brillante Jr. appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 December 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the wrestler Brillante Jr. is the younger cousin of the wrestler Brillante Jr.?

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On 3 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Brillante Jr. (wrestler, born 2001) to Brillante Jr.. The result of the discussion was moved.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:06, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Brillante Jr. is a third generation wrestler and a younger cousin of Andrade El Idolo, known from All Elite Wrestling and World Wrestling Entertainment? Source: https://www.mediotiempo.com/lucha-libre/dinastia-andrade-en-la-lucha-libre-historia-luchadores-y-legado
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Created by EstrellaSuecia (talk). Self-nominated at 22:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Brillante Jr. (wrestler, born 2001); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Gonna offer a driveby alt here:
ALT1: ... that the wrestler Brillante Jr. is the younger cousin of the wrestler Brillante Jr.? Source: https://www.mediotiempo.com/lucha-libre/dinastia-andrade-en-la-lucha-libre-historia-luchadores-y-legado
-- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 02:16, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AGF on non-English sources (they look reliable). Article is long enough, sourced throughout, was nominated soon enough (sorry about the wait). AGF that a QPQ is not needed given the sub-500 edit count at time of nomination. No image to worry about and copyright is AGF due to translation. I like both hooks but very much prefer Tamzin's ALT1 (note to promoter: please use that one). Great work on this article, EstrellaSuecia! ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:11, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, appreciate it! Pbritti. Its a project of mine to wirte new articles on all the new CMLL roster members, but this one might be the most interesting for a wider group because of his family connections to a WWE and AEW wrestler. EstrellaSuecia (talk) 16:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 January 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. and add hatnotes. – robertsky (talk) 05:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brillante Jr. (wrestler, born 2001) → Brillante Jr. – Currently, Brillante Jr. is a redirect to Andrade el Idolo. Andrade used the name Brillante Jr. early in his career, he is best known as La Sombra, Andrade Cien Almas or Andrade el Idolo. At this point, Brillante Jr is an obscure name. So, better to give the current Brillante Jr the article without the (wrestler, born 2001). He has been using Brillante Jr. since 2015, currently working for CMLL. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Warm Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 17:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems sensible to me. Put a hat to Andrade el Idolo. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose Andrade El Idolo has 63,866 views compared with only 201[[1]] for the 2001 wrestler. Perhaps disambiguation is better. Google seems inconclusive. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Page views isn't a good reason for not moving a page. I'm not sure someone who hasn't used that name for such a long time is really the primary topic here. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Andrade El Idolo moved away from the Brillante Jr. name in 2007, and while I don't follow wrestling myself, a review of his article appears to corroborate the nom's claim that "Brillante Jr." is now an obscure name from before Andrade reached his greatest notability. Given that fact, I think it seems fair to move the primary title to the 2001-born wrestler, who's been consistently using "Brillante Jr." as a ring name since 2015. I also concur with Lee Vilenski that a hatnote should be sufficient to clear up confusion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 21:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.