Talk:Break My Heart (Dua Lipa song)

Genres

For future reference, here is what the majority of sources have said:

Disco

• Billboard: disco-funk anthem "Break My Heart"
• MTV: disco-pop territory
• God is in the TV: another blissful release of disco ecstasy
• Stereoboard: It's a disco-drenced dance-pop offering
• Soundigest: "Break My Heart" is yet another disco track
• The Singles Jukebox: mixing it into a disco
• Warner Music NZ press release: Dua Lipa has shared her new disco-infused single Break My Heart
• Apple Music review: life-affirming disco ("Don't Start Now," "Break My Heart")
• Gay Times: merging elements of disco and funk

Dance-pop

• The A.V. Club: her latest dance-pop track "Break My Heart"
• Slant Magazine: pouring it into sublime dance-pop
• Stereoboard: It's a disco-drenced dance-pop offering
• The Singles Jukebox: so many great dance pop tracks

LOVI33 00:24, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

If you have the genres, use them in the article. Also, you are still intepreting genres, being "funk drenched" or having "elements" of a genre, does not mean it's part of a genre and is interpreting a source poorly. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:07, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Break My Heart (Dua Lipa song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 16:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Following on from your recent review of one of my articles, I will take this one on. However, the review will come in stages of sorts because the article is large, so do not think it is complete once I have only added comments for a few sections. --Kyle Peake (talk) 16:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm going to start addressing the comments you have written now and I'll wait for the next ones. LOVI33 19:46, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Target Andrew Wotman to Andrew Watt (record producer)
• Remove target on Andrew Watt under Producer(s) per WP:OVERLINK
• "from her second studio album" → "from her second studio album,"
• "included as the album's ninth track" this is not written out anywhere in the body and is it really notable for the lead anyway?

  Removed

• "It was written by Lipa" → "The song was written by Lipa"
• "Jordan K. Johnson and Andrew Watt," → "Jordan K. Johnson, and Andrew Watt," with the appropriate target
• "the latter and The Monsters & Strangerz handling the production" → "the latter of the five handling production alongside the Monsters & Strangerz" per MOS:THEMUSIC
• "As it samples work by INXS, Michael Hutchence and Andrew Farriss are also credited as songwriters." add something like this as its own sentence instead; take the GA "Yikes" for example
• "The song interpolates the rhythm-guitar melody from" → "It interpolates the rhythm-guitar melody of" with the target and this should directly come after the release sentence in the new order
• ""Break My Heart" is a" → "The song is a"

  Started new paragraph here instead to keep the Music and lyrics additions together

• "song that follows and" → "track that includes a"
• "A vulnerable song, it sees" → "A vulnerable song, "Break My Heart" sees" with the new para starting here instead
• "whether a new love will leave" → "if a new love will leave"
• ""Break My Heart" was released on" → "The song was released for digital download and streaming on" with the targets and put this directly after writing/production
• Target single to Single (music) on the first mention
• "from music critics with many commenting on the song's production" → "from music critics, with many praising the production" with the target
• "debuted at number six on the UK Singles Chart and at number twenty-one" → "entered at number 6 on the UK Singles Chart and at number 21" per MOS:NUM on comparable values
• "Internationally, "Break My Heart" has reached the top ten in seventeen other territories" → "Internationally, the song has peaked within the top 10 of 17 other countries"
• "where it reached number one" → "where it reached the summit"
• "The accompanying 1990s-inspired music video for "Break My Heart" was" → "The accompanying 1990s-inspired music video was"
• Add some info about the video synopsis and reception here
• "were also released" → "were also released for "Break My Heart""
• "Lipa has promoted the single" → "Lipa has promoted the song"
• "Big Brother Brasil 20 and Graduate Together" → "Big Brother Brasil 20, and Graduate Together"
• ""Break My Heart" has also" → "The song has also"

 Done. LOVI33 17:41, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Background and release

• "Alexandra Tamposi, Andrew Wotman, Stefan Johnson and Jordan K. Johnson" → "Ali Tamposi, Andrew Watt (record producer)|Andrew Watt]], Stefan Johnson, and Jordan K. Johnson" with the target fixes
• "and was produced by The Monsters & Strangerz and Watt" → "and was produced by the Monsters & Strangerz alongside Watt" with the target fix
• "with all writers excluding Watt" → "with all the co-writers apart from Andrew Watt"
• "she found it is hard to be open" → "Lipa found it hard to be open"
• "with people you don't know" → "with people she does not know"
• "she later realized its easy to do so" → "Lita later realized it is easy to do so"
• "that her co-writers" → "that the co-writers"
• "which allowed her to be more open" → "which allowed Lipa to be more open"
• "similarity in the chorus melody between the song and" → "similarity between the song and"
• Add the song's release year in brackets and introduce who INXS are
• "They didn't want to get sued so" → "The collaborators did not want to get sued, so band members"
• "was a song recorded for" → "had been recorded for"
• "leaked along with" → "leaked along with fellow album track"
• Target single to Single (music)
• "on the Australian TV show" → "during an interview with Australian TV show"
• "began teasing the release of the song shortly" → "began teasing the release shortly"
• "would be released on 27 March 2020, however," → "would be released a week later; however,"
• "leaked shortly thereafter" → "leaked shortly later"
• "was pushed up to" → "was pushed back to"
• ""Break My Heart" premiered on" → "The song premiered on"
• Are you sure the contemporary hit radio release shouldn't be mentioned here?

  Added it in

 Done. LOVI33 20:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• Target chorus to Refrain on the audio sample's text and baseline to Bassline
• Add ref(s) at the end of the text
• "It runs for three-minutes and forty-one seconds and interpolates" → "It has a length of 3:41 and interpolates" with the target
• Remove wikilink on "Need You Tonight"
• Remove wikilink on INXS
• Target choruses to Refrain
• "Em–G–F♯dim–Em–C–Bm–D while the pre-choruses" → "Em–G–F♯dim–Em–C–Bm–D, while the pre-choruses"
• Target pre-choruses to Pre-chorus per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Target bridge to Bridge (music)
• "with a production consisting" → "with the production consisting"
• "disco violins and a" → "disco violins, and a"
• [16][17][18][12][19][20] is too many at the end of the sentence; max of 4 so add some after appropriate content and make sure to numerically order
• "It opens with a baseline" → "The song opens with a baseline" with the target
• Target synths to Synthesizer
• "both categorized as bouncy" → "both of which were categorized as bouncy"
• "and sweeping strings while the music" → "and sweeping strings, while the music"
• "eases into the chorus" → "eases into its chorus"
• "while also having a techno-adjacent baseline and" → "while a techno-adjacent baseline is also included, alongside" with the appropriate wikilink
• Wikilink string section to itself
• "vocals span from E₃ to B₄ and" → "vocals span a range of E₃ to B₄, and"
• "of spoken-word deliveries" → "of spoken word deliveries"
• "It's lyrics were compared" → "The lyrics were compared"
• "COVID-19 pandemic social distancing measures" → "COVID-19 pandemic's social distancing measures" with the target
• "was inspired by Lipa's partner" → "were inspired by Lipa's boyfriend"

 Done. LOVI33 20:26, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Promotion

• Sure you can't add more info about the lyric and Spotify videos?

  The only thing that I could find was their releases

• "its COVID-19 pandemic-relating lyrics, a social distancing" → "the COVID-19 pandemic-related lyrics, a social distancing" with no wikilinks
• "was released on 11 April 2020" → "was released on 11 April of that year"
• "It was created by" → "The PSA was created by"
• The given source does not mention Louis Palacios or draw the connection to the lyrics at all

  Removed

• "Several remixes of "Break My Heart"" → "Several remixes of the song"
• "titled "Midnight Snack,"" → "known as the Midnight Snack Remix,"
• "It reimagines it" → "It reimagines the track"
• Target zoom to Zoom (software)
• "On 29 May 2020, a remix" → "On 29 May 2020, a remix of "Break My Heart""
• "It was also categorized as a house song with" → "The remix was also categorized as a house song, with"
• "The remix was accompanied by a music video, uploaded" → "It was accompanied by a music video, which was uploaded"
• "Ellie Mullins of We Rave You magazine wrote" → "Ellie Mullins of We Rave You wrote"
• This sentence belongs directly after the house song sentence of the para instead
• "A Solardo and Moon Boots Remix were released respectively" → "Remixes by Solardo and Moon Boots had respective releases"
• "was scheduled to be released a week earlier on 5 June, however was" → "had been scheduled to be released a week prior; however, it was"
• "called it "shimmery", "funky"" → "called the remix "shimmery," "funky,""
• "is expected to release a remix" → "has proposed to release a remix"

 Done. LOVI33 22:01, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Critical reception

• "received generally positive reviews from critics" → "was met with generally positive reviews from music critics"
• "sample calling it an "allure" and Brittany Spanos of" → "sample, calling it an "allure," and Brittany Spanos from"
• "called it "bewitching."" → "labelled the sample "bewitching.""
• "to Lipa's discography as well as calling" → "to Lipa's discography, while calling"
• "He went on to call its beats" → "He continued, describing its beats as"
• "bright" and called the song as a whole" → "bright," while viewing the song as
• "praised the song's production calling it "polished" and "minimalistic."" → "praised the song's "polished" and "minimalistic" production."
• "baseline calling it "spectacular" and" → "baseline, calling it "spectacular," while"
• "stated that it is" → "stated that the baseline is"
• "Crack's Michael Cragg categorized Lipa's vocals" → "Crack Magazine's Michael Cragg categorized Lipa's vocals on the song"
• "called "Break My Heart" Future Nostalgia's" → "highlighted "Break My Heart" as Future Nostalgia's"
• "track and Bianca Gracie of Billboard" → "track, and Bianca Gracie, for Billboard,"
• "the songs funk guitar line to Chic while" → "the song's funk guitar line to the music of Chic, while"
• "compared it to" → "compared the line to"
• Add release year of "Lovefool" in brackets
• "Staff gave mixed reviews" → "staff gave mixed reviews"
• "averaging at 57/100" → "averaging the song at 5.67/10" since that is directly stated by PopMatters and more in detail
• Target pop to Pop music
• "gave a 4/10," → "rated the song 4/10,"
• Add release year of "Just Give Me a Reason" in brackets
• "gave the most positive review at PopMatters giving it" → "provided the most positive review at PopMatters, giving the song"
• "praising the song's meaning and production" → "praising its meaning and production"
• "wrote that "Break My Heart"" → "opined that "Break My Heart""
• "calling it" → "viewing it as"

 Done

Commercial performance

• "debuted at number seventy-six" → "debuted at number 76"
• "It later entered in the UK Singles Chart, reaching number six the following week," → "It entered the UK Singles Chart the following week, reaching number six,"
• "Lipa's ninth UK top ten single" → "Lipa's ninth top 10 single on the chart"
• "in the top ten that week" → "in the top 10 of the UK Singles Chart that week"
• "sixty years to have three songs chart simultaneously in the top ten" → "60 years to have a trio of songs appear simultaneously in the top 10"
• "it was certified silver" → ""Break My Heart" was certified silver"
• Add BPI in brackets and mention that silver was for 200,000 units sold
• The two sentences referenced above (UK Singles Chart performance, and BPI certification) have no ref(s) to back them up
• "behind "Physical" and" → "behind "Physical", and"
• Add release year of "Roses" in brackets
• Add citation to back the Irish Singles Chart position up
• "It debuted at number eighty-three" → "The song debuted at number 83"
• "with only one day of tracking" → "after only one day of tracking"
• "number fourteen on the chart in its fifth week" → "number 14 on the chart four weeks later"
• Citation is needed to back this up
• "peaked at number ten on the Euro Digital Song Sales and" → "peaked at number 10 on the Euro Digital Song Sales chart and"
• "top forty in twenty-one other European territories" → "top 40 in 21 other European territories"
• Citations are needed to back these claims up
• ""Break My Heart" has reached number one in one territory, doing so in Israel" → ""Break My Heart" reached number one on the Israel Media Forest chart" since this section makes it clear that the song only reached number one on that chart with the prose
• I'm not stating it anymore; add citations in appropriate places for any info that does not have sources in this section
• "in Australia, the song debuted at number fourteen" → "in Australia, the song debuted at number 14"
• "so far has reached a peak of seven" → "has currently reached a peak of number 7"
• "it has so far reached number twelve" → "the song has so far reached number 12"
• "That same week, it also debuted atop the NZ Hot Singles Chart." Remove this, it is not notable
• "In Canada, "Break My Heart" debuted at number forty-seven" → "On the Canadian Hot 100, "Break My Heart" debuted at number 47" with the wikilink
• "peaked at fourteen in the following June" → "peaked at number 14 in June of the year"
• "In the United States, the song" → "In the US, the song"
• "number thirty-seven" → "number 37"
• "the following week, debuting at number twenty-one, Lipa's" → "the following week at number 21, becoming Lipa's"
• "most added song of the week" → "most added song for the week"
• "entered the top ten in American pop radio with" → "entered the top 10 of American pop radio, with"

 Done

Music video

Background and production

• "The accompanying music video for "Break My Heart" premiered" → "The music video for "Break My Heart" premiered"
• "Henry Scholfield who also directed" → "Henry Scholfield, who also directed"
• Add the release years of the videos in brackets
• "The video was shot in" → "The visual was shot in"
• "It features 1990s-inspired slide clips" → "It features slide clips that were inspired by the 1990s"
• "While filming the video," → "During filming for the video,"
• "To create the video," → "For creation of it,"
• "wire work and a tilting set" → "wire work, and a tilting set"
• "The sets for the video were built across three stages and were" → "The sets for the music video were built across three stages and"

 Done

Credits and personnel

• This is a neat addition, but unfortunately is not sourced properly per WP:INSTAGRAM-EL

  Replaced source

• If you can find another source, then keep this section and use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel in both areas; otherwise, remove it

 Done

Synopsis

• "blowing a bubble with gum," → "blowing a bubble with gum in the music video," on the img main text
• "The video begins with Lipa jumping" → "The music video begins with Lipa jumping"
• "traffic-jammed city block.[65] She wears" → "traffic-jammed city block, while wearing" and put [65] at the end of the sentence before [66] in this order
• "As she is walking, one of the cars" → "As she walks, one of the cars"
• "Lipa is seen wearing" → "Lipa is then seen wearing" since it is about a later point than the first outfit
• "white shoes and a white skirt" → "white shoes and a skirt of the same colour"
• "apartment where she struggles to maintain her balance" → "apartment, struggling to maintain her balance in the apartment"
• "is a metaphor for being uncertain" → "is a metaphor for Lipa being uncertain"
• "The apartment then turns" → "After the scene, the apartment turns"
• "She lands on an airplane seat where she gets up and walks" → "Lipa lands on an airplane seat, followed by her getting up on the plane and walking"
• "on the plane is that of" → "on the plane is the one from psychological horror film"
• "jacket and skirt with black lining," → "jacket, and skirt with black lining,"
• "on her and she wakes up in a bed" → "on her, leading to Lipa waking up in a bed"
• "Lipa runs scared into the bathroom" → "Lipa runs scared into the bathroom,"
• "her shoes and beds" → "her shoes, and beds"
• "bathtub which turns into a frothy pink martini" → "bathtub, which turns into a frothy pink martini that"
• "and a red and white" → "and red and white"
• [69][66] should be in numerical order
• "The video concludes looking at all" → "The music video concludes by looking at all"
• "of the transitions before Lipa blows" → "of the transitions, before Lipa blows"

 Done

Reception

• "called it a" → "called the visual a"
• "and LED-lit sets"." → "and LED-lit sets."" with the target
• "Writing for PopMatters, Ian Rushbury called" → "Rushbury labelled" since he's the only Rushbury mentioned in this article
• Add the release year of the video in brackets
• "by Pulp writing that the video" → "by Pulp, writing that the clip"
• "couture outfits"." → "couture outfits.""
• Target Insider to Insider (website)
• "surreal dreamscape"." → "surreal dreamscape.""
• "described the video as" → "branded the visual"
• "location-hopping"." → "location-hopping.""
• Remove target on Idolator
• "choreography "laissez-faire" and wrote" → "choreography "laissez-faire," and wrote that"
• Remove the view count since YouTube is constantly updating, unless you can find a source that directly states a number of views

 Done

Animated video

• "animated music video" → "animated music video." on the img main text, with the target
• "was also accompanied by an animated video," → "was accompanied by an animated video," with the target
• "is a fullscreen of the song's" → "is a fullscreen version of the song's" with the target
• Remove wikilink on vertical video
• There is no citation at the end of this sentence
• "and premiered on" → "and premiered via"
• "The video takes place in the" → "The video is set as taking place in the"
• "It opens with an animated" → "The visual opens with an animated"
• "reminiscent of" → "reminiscent of animated TV series"
• "at a cave where pulls out" → "at a cave, where she pulls out"
• No citation at the end of this sentence/para for some reason?
• "She goes into the cave" → "Lipa goes into the cave"
• This sentence is not backed up by any citation?
• "she begins to levitate" → "Lipa begins to levitate"
• "implants it's self into her" → "implants itself into her"
• "She leaves the cave and..." EW ref does not back up this sentence?
• "charge her jetpack, however," → "charge her jetpack; however,"
• "Lipa runs scared before falling to the ground" → "Lipa becomes scared and runs before falling to the ground"
• "however, Lipa soon regains" → "though she soon regains"
• This sentence is not backed up by any citation
• "Throughout the video," → "Throughout the animated video,"
• "wearing a pink outfit," → "while wearing a pink outfit,"
• Once again, either remove the view count or replace with a source that directly states it

 Done, removed all original research and moved section into the "Promotion" section as it became very short

Live performances

• "in a virtual performance" → "with a virtual performance"
• "on 8 April 2020" → "on 8 April of that year"
• "Mike Nied of Idolator praised the performance," → "Nied praised the performance,"
• "that Lipa "slayed" as well as" → "that Lipa "slayed," as well as"
• "She did an acoustic virtual performance" → "Lipa delivered an acoustic virtual performance" with the target
• "on ZDF" → "for ZDF"
• "performed the song on 16 May 2020, on Graduate Together: America Honors the High School Class of 2020" → "performed the song for Graduate Together: America Honors the High School Class of 2020 on 16 May"

 Done

Track listing

• Retitle to Track listings as there is more than one
• Digital download needs a citation to back it up
• Are you sure the col is used correctly here?

  Removed

 Done

Personnel

• Retitle to Credits and personnel
• Are you sure the order is correct here of songwriters and producers?

  Fixed according to Tidal

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so that there is the right space between credits and personnel
• Target Andrew Watt to Andrew Watt (record producer)

 Done

Charts

Weekly charts

• Brazil, CIS, Israel and South Korea peaks are not properly backed up currently

  Fixed Brazil, CIS, see Template:single chart, Israel has a note on how to obtain the correct chart and I think the South Korean Gaon chart website is down because it is not working on Google.

• Target HRT to Hrvatska radiotelevizija
• Are you sure Polish Airplay Top 100 shouldn't be targeted to Polish music charts?

  See Template:single chart

 Done. LOVI33 00:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Monthly charts

• Good

Certifications

• Fix certification table bottom

 Done

Release history

• Format → Format(s)
• Even though they were on the same date, rows should be separate for the Solardo Remix and Moon Boots Remix; span 12 June 2020 for two rows in this order

 Done

See also

• Good

References

• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Copyvio score needs work at 49.2%; fix quoting from ref 3 to sort this out

  This is because of the quote I have in the "Music and lyrics" section, should I remove it?

  Don't remove it, just trim the quote --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

   Done. LOVI33 15:33, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 2
• Apple Music → Apple Music (US) on ref 3
• meaww.com should be publisher instead for ref 5
• Cite Inquisitr as publisher instead for ref 8
• Cite Crack Magazine instead for ref 12
• Target The Singles Jukebox to Stylus Magazine on ref 21
• Remove wikilink on NME for ref 25
• Cite a number of countries for refs 34 and 38 to verify the releases were indeed various
• Remove ref 49 since ref 50 should be used at that position instead
• Remove the author of ref 50
• Remove wikilink on Official Charts Company for ref 52
• Remove or replace ref 60 per WP:INSTAGRAM-EL
• Ditto for refs 61 and 62
• Ref 63 should cite as Paris, Calin Van instead since otherwise it reads in a confusing manner
• Remove or replace refs 65 and 83 since PopSugar are a gossip website and not a reputable music critic

  Removed one, the other is just confirming that the Graduate Together performance happened, it does not add any thing else to the article.

  Still, the source is not a reliable one so should not be used either way; try and replace since I'm sure another source states this --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

   Done, replaced. LOVI33 15:33, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• Remove or replace ref 67 since that is a student newspaper
• Target Insider to Insider (website)
• Ref 81 is a violation of WP:SELFPUB so remove or replace
• Ref 90 should either be archived for the issue date, cite a direct URL to it or both
• Fix ref 95 to back up the position
• Target HRT to Hrvatska radiotelevizija on ref 98
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 102
• Fix the title of ref 107
• Ref 112 should either cite an archive or different URL or both

   Not done There is a note on how to obtain the correct chart

  Silly me, missed that --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• Cite Billboard Japan as work/website instead for ref 114 with the wikilink
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 116
• Replace ref 118 per WP:INSTAGRAM-EL and wikilink Recording Industry Association of Malaysia

   Not done According to WP:SPS, Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established subject-matter expert and this source is from RIM making it reliable. If you look at GA "Don't Start Now", it uses this.

  Not everything included in passed GAs can be fully argued as reliable, since reviewers don't always pick up on things and the page is not verified --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

  Kyle Peake, I think this is the only way to obtain it. On the RIM website, it only goes up to the chart dated 6 April 2020. Plus I have looked many other articles and all use this way. Should I just remove it? LOVI33 15:33, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• Remove target on Billboard for ref 119
• Target Polish Airplay Top 100 to Polish music charts on ref 125

   Not done Template:single chart

• Remove wikilink on Tophit for ref 128

   Not done Again, Template:single chart

• Wikilink Recording Industry Association (Singapore) on ref 130
• Remove SloTop50 from the title of ref 132 and cite it as the publisher instead with the wikilink
• Cite Gaon Chart as publisher instead for ref 133 with the target
• Remove wikilink on Rolling Stone for ref 142
• Remove BBC from the title of ref 151 and cite it as publisher instead but keep the wikilink
• Cite All Access as publisher instead for ref 152
• Remove BBC from the title of ref 153 and cite it as publisher instead
• Cite Radio Date as publisher instead for ref 155

 Done

Final comments and verdict

• Man that was long, but felt great to review; I noticed throughout that you had not added citations to back up text though.  On hold and can't wait to see your responses! --Kyle Peake (talk) 21:26, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

• Hey Kyle Peake, thanks again for reviewing this article. I have removed all the original research and addressed all your comments. Is there anything else you would like me to do? LOVI33 03:55, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• LOVI33 Wow that was very quick, thanks for responding greatly! I have a few comments in response to your statements. --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake, I have responded to most all your new comments. I have done them all accept the Malaysian charts. Should I just remove it? LOVI33 15:36, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• LOVI33 I have now concluded that can be kept, since it is only not verified due to not having a high name recognition and if multiple other GAs use it, that indicates the source is likely to be fine. --Kyle Peake (talk) 16:28, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:25, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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• Article history

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• ... that after Dua Lipa wrote her song "Break My Heart", she noticed similarities to INXS's "Need You Tonight" and decided the credit the band? Source: Billboard
  • ALT1:... that Dua Lipa had a case of the flu while filming her music video for "Break My Heart"? Source: Entertainment Tonight
  • ALT2:... that Dua Lipa filmed her music video for "Break My Heart" in Bulgaria? Source: AskAnythingChat

Improved to Good Article status by LOVI33 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 5 July 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: GA since 5 July 2020, Earwig ok, neutral, interesting and cited. QPQ not required as nominator has less than 5 credits. I took the liberty of adding the link to INXS on the hook. However, the article did not mentioned that Lipa "accidentally" sampled INXS, just noticed the similarities therefore credited the band, I suggest rephrasing that. Also, on ALT2, the article cited AskAnythingChat and Shots rather than Promonews, I suggest changing that. Corachow (talk) 21:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Corachow, I have addressed your comments above. Is there anything else I can do? LOVI33 01:28, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

LOVI33, Perhaps "decided the credit the band" is better? Corachow (talk) 14:26, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Corachow, changed. LOVI33 16:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Great! Ready to go. Corachow (talk) 23:49, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

There is no INXS sample in the song

This factually incorrect statement keeps getting re-added to the article. There is no sample of the INXS song "Need You Tonight" in "Break My Heart." It has a similar musical passage around the words "I would've stayed at home/'Cause I was doin' better alone" and repeated three times - and the writers of the INXS song were given songwriting credit as a result, to avoid any lawsuits. This is not unprecedented - the Rolling Stones credited k.d. lang and Ben Mink when they discovered a similarity in the chorus of "Anybody Seen My Baby?."

It's arguably interpolation, inasmuch as the instrumentation in this passage is reminiscent of that of the INXS song's guitar line (edit: But not really - there's no attempt to sound like the distinctive guitar sound in "Need You Tonight"; it is simply that two bars of the chorus are musically identical). But there is no sample - a reuse of a portion of the actual recording. -ProhibitOnions ^(T) 08:31, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

ProhibitOnions, I am unsure why this is here. This is not a discussion, it is a fact. Not only do multiple reliable sources confirm it, but the Future Nostalgia liner notes do as well. Plus what you mentioned above is mentioned in the background. Even though it was accidental, it is still an interpolation and INXS were given a publishing credit and writing credits. LOVI33 21:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

It is not a sample. Dua Lipa did not record the song aiming to sound like INXS, so it's a coincidental soundalike, nothing more. We have sources that inaccurately call it a "sample" - but we have the artist herself, interviewed in reliable media saying it was not that at all. As I said above, it maybe counts as interpolation, but generally that means trying to recreate the sound of a separate recording without sampling it, and in this case, as Dua Lipa herself says, there was no intent to imitate INXS, and that the similarity was brought to her attention AFTER the song was finished. So, not a sample, and interpolation, only accidentally. Hence my rephrase. -ProhibitOnions ^(T)

ProhibitOnions, the fact that it is accidental is irrelevant, an interpolation is an interpolation. Please provide a source on the fact that an interpolation has to be intentional. Interviews by artists are not the most reliable source. One example could be when Lipa stated that her song "Love Again" samples White Town, when it in fact samples Al Bowlly. The Future Nostalgia liner notes are 100% the most reliable source, and they confirm it as an interpolation. Plus, the fact that it was accidental is already mentioned in the "Background and release" section, the lead doesn't need to include everything about the article. That's why I removed it, not because I didn't like it but because It wasn't notable for the lead. One other thing, please avoid using citations in the lead, a lead is meant to summarize the article. LOVI33 23:41, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

I didn't take out the mention of interpolation, it was further down in the article, but largely irrelevant in the intro. More important, if we are discussing the unusual songwriting credits, is to explain how it happened that the writers of a 1987 song, one of them long deceased, came to be credited. As with other cases, this was simply coincidence, as Dua Lipa confirms. Me, I thought that portion of the song was far more reminiscent of "God Is a Dancer," released only a few months earlier, but I guess INXS had better lawyers. -ProhibitOnions ^(T) 00:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

ProhibitOnions, firstly, the interpolation is extremely relevant in the lead. I don't want to start an edit war but the entire reason INXS is credited isn't really notable. According to WP:LEAD, the lead section should show why the article is notable and summarize it's most important points. How I usually do it is 1st paragraph: Writers/Release/Samples/Composition, 2nd: Critical reception/Commercial performance 3rd: Promotion. For now, I am going to remove the citations from the lead per WP:LEAD as it is already sourced in the article, but honestly, what you've added isn't notable for the lead. LOVI33 01:19, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Break My Heart (Dua Lipa song)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Break My Heart (Dua Lipa song)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "RIAA":

• From Dua Lipa discography: "American certifications – Dua Lipa". Recording Industry Association of America. Retrieved 31 January 2022.
• From Saint Jhn: "Gold & Platinum — Saint Jhn". Recording Industry Association of America. Archived from the original on June 14, 2020. Retrieved June 20, 2020.
• From Music video: "About the Awards - RIAA". riaa.com. Retrieved December 4, 2017.
• From List of music recording certifications: "RIAA – Recording Industry Association of America". Recording Industry Association of America. Retrieved 26 May 2008.
• From Music download: "For Students Doing Reports". RIAA. Archived from the original on 10 April 2012. Retrieved 30 April 2012.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 18:54, 26 October 2022 (UTC)