Talk:Born to Lie

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GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 15:32, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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I will start this review soon! --K. Peake 15:32, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Pipe Tim Pagnotta to Sugarcult in the infobox
"by American band" → "by American supergroup" with the pipe

I don't know if this is necessary. Linking supergroup would create a sea of blue, and Dreamcar themselves does not refer to themselves as a supergroup, despite publications doing so.

It does make sense for avoiding that sea somewhat, but I removed the pipe in the body to avoid linking elsewhere. --K. Peake 16:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change debut album to debut studio album
Add the release year in brackets instead
Pipe Tim Pagnotta to Sugarcult
"written by the group's four members:" → "written by the group's four members"
"It was released" → "The song was released"
The sentence about the lyrical content should be after the ones about the comp and style of the song
"It is an upbeat" → "It is an" because the upbeat part is not notable when you mention the actual beat later on in the sentence
"it was compared and" → "the song was compared and"
"the group's previous single, "Kill for Candy" (2017)." → "Dreamcar's previous single "Kill for Candy"." with the pipe
Pipe music critics to Music journalism

Background and release

"first studio album Dreamcar (2017)." → "first studio album Dreamcar."
"Kanal and Young, and" → "Kanal, and Young, while"
"doe the song," → "for the song,"
Are you sure the digital download and streaming release in various countries is backed up, as the only download retailer linked to is Amazon US since Spotify is streaming only?

I changed the region parameter to "United States" since there was no Apple Music single release, just a pre-order/download option on the album's Apple Music page.

"Dreamcar's second overall" → "Dreamcar's second one overall"
"It serves as the" → "It served as the"
"pre-ordered Dreamcar.[9][10] On the album, "Born to Lie" appears as the third song." → "pre-ordered the album.[9][10] On May 12, 2017, "Born to Lie" was included as the third song on Dreamcar."

Composition and lyrics

Img looks good!
Swap the Mxdwn and COS refs to be in the same order as the prose
"which he said contradicted" → "which he said contradicts"
"He compared it to" → "He compared the former to"
"leaned more towards" → "leans more towards"
"than its predecessor." → "than the predecessor."
Wikilink bass guitar
Wikilink pre-chorus per MOS:LINK2SECT
Wikilink chord progressions per WP:NOPIPE
"sings in new style" → "sings in a new style"
"just a little"." → "just a little."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences

Critical reception

Pipe music critics to Music journalism
"on "Born to Lie"." → "on the song." to avoid writing the title in both of the first two sentences
Avoid using "claimed" per WP:CLAIM
"performances provided "enough" → "performances provide "enough"

Track listing

Good

Credits and personnel

Pipe Tim Pagnotta to Sugarcult

Release history

The Digital download is not backed up as being various (see my earlier comment)

References

Copyvio score looks amazing at 12.3%!!!
Regarding refs 4 and 5, shouldn't you add numerous Apple Music citations instead to verify a various release?
Mxdwn.com → mxdwn on ref 15

External links

Good

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of the issues are fixed, after a rather quick review! --K. Peake 17:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake – thanks again for the review. I believe I edited the article accordingly and left a couple comments above. Let me know if there is anything else I can do, thanks. Carbrera (talk) 16:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Carbrera ✓ Pass now after I removed that one pipe for you; everything else looks good! --K. Peake 16:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]