Talk:Bol Bol

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A fact from Bol Bol appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 October 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that basketball player Bol Bol received his first NCAA Division I offer at the age of 15?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2018/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bol Bol.

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 03:25, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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Hi Runningibis, if you are still interested, I will review this article. I usually start with a copyedit and then go from there. If you disagree with any of the copyedits, let me know. I try to just make uncontroversial changes. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:25, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit

Here is my copyedit. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:38, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

"Bol was considered one of the best players in the class of 2018" - change "considered" to "identified as"
"being rated a consensus" - change "being" to "having been"
"where he was relegated to the junior varsity team" - relegated seems a little charged. Maybe "where he was assigned"
Per MOS:LEADCITE, you don't need an inline citation in the lead. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:38, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

High school career

"However, he soon left the school because he did not live in the district.[4] After transferring in 2015, Bol continued his freshman season for Bishop Miege High School in Roeland Park, Kansas." - I would combine these sentences to something like "Because he did not live in his school district, Bol transferred to Bishop Miege High School in Roeland Park, Kansas where he continued his freshman season."
"Bol turned heads playing for his" - "turned heads" is a little loaded. Maybe something more neutral like "participated in"
"Bol chipped in 14 points to help Bishop Miege win" - change "chipped in" to something like "contributed"
"After guiding his team to a 22-win season" - the source uses the word "led", I would replace "guiding" with "leading" to be truer to the source
"April 2016, he obtained a scholarship offer from Kansas." - change "obtained" to "received"
"it was announced that Bol was transferring" - change to "Bol announced he was transferring" to remove the passive voice
"he notched 14 points" - "notched" is a little too colloquial. Maybe just say "scored", "recorded" or something similar
What do you mean by "Bol paced Mater Dei with 15 points" - he led his team in scoring? If so, I would use a more neutral phrase.
"he had picked up offers from Arizona, USC, and Oregon" - change "picked up" to "received"
"In was revealed in November 2017 that Bol was transferring to Findlay Prep in Henderson, Nevada, where he would play under head coach Paul Washington.[29] His head coach at Mater Dei said that Bol made the move due to "family reasons." - I would combine the sentences to something like "Due to family reasons, Bol transferred to Findlay Prep in Henderson, Nevada in November 2017, where he would play under head coach Paul Washington."
"he erupted for 30 points, 8 rebounds, and 4 blocks" - "erupted for" is a little loaded. Maybe just "recorded"
"Bol poured in 32 points in 21 minutes" - change "poured in" to just "scored"
In the table there is a lot of acronyms that don't have their meaning explained. C, CA, ft, in, m, lb and kg. I would either use the {{Abbr}} or {{Convert}} templates to explain the meaning of these.
I have general concern that this section is too long. If there is any way for you to shorten or tighten it up, either by combining sentences, remove overly specific details, etc. that would be great. As his career progresses, his high school exploits will become less notable. It is ok for right now, but something to think about as the article evolves in order to maintain GA status. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:24, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

National team career

Could you add something explaining what "Team World" is. For those unfamiliar with FIBA, this is a foreign concept. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:37, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

"and graduated from college there in 2013" - remove "from college there" since it's already implied.
"Bol has an older brother, Madut, who played college basketball at Southern University and graduated from college there in 2013.[45] He has three other siblings, named Garang, Aker, and Mariak." - I would combine these sentences: "Bol has four siblings, including Madut, who played college basketball at Southern University and graduated in 2013." I think it is unnecessary to list the other names of his non-notable siblings. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:37, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Images

File:MerueloGym.jpg and File:Blue Valley Northwest.png are both freely licensed and properly tagged. They both are relevant to the article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:38, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

Reference #1 needs to be filled out. It needs the publisher or website fields and access-date at the very least.
References 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 12, 17, 20, 22, 23, 26, 27, 29, 31, 32, 33 should use the |newspaper= field, instead of the |website= field.
The |website= field should only be used when an actual website is listed (i.e. if it ends in .com, .edu, .org, etc). If you are listing the publisher, like Sports Illustrated, you should use the |publisher= field. Please check all the references.
In the sentence "As a 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) seventh grader, Bol featured in a highlight video at an Indianapolis basketball camp that drew attention from CBS Sports and The Washington Post.[6][7][8]" I would place each source after you mention it. I.e. place the Youtube source after "video", the CBS source after CBS Sports, and the Post source after Washington Post.
In the sentence "In November 2016, it was announced that Bol was transferring from Bishop Miege to Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana, California for his junior year.[20][21][22]" - why does it need 3 sources? Seems uncontroversial to me.
There are a good number of sentences that have two references that don't seem controversial. Please check and remove any duplicate sources that are providing the same information.
Reference 18, the publisher is "University of Oregon Athletics", not Oregon Ducks
Reference 19, the publisher is "Lawrence Journal-World" which should be included in the reference
The source in the table should be properly filled out, using the ref tags and a citation template
All the other references look good. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:55, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

His nationality is American, but he was born in Sudan? Did he immigrate and become a nationalized American citizen? If so, and there is a source, it would be nice to add to the article.
I understand that his college "career" has not really started yet, but since the lead says he is a college basketball player, you should probably have a "College career" section with some text explaining his commitment to the Ducks. This section will be needed anyway when he starts playing this season. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:24, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Overall, a solid article. After the issues above are addressed, it should be good to go. Will place on hold. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:55, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

All issues have been cleared up. Runningibis (talk) 11:07, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Runningibis. I am still working through the high school career section and the references. I'll be adding more comments today. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:52, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gonzo_fan2007 I have cleared up all the additional issues brought up. Some double references have been left for non-controversial statements, because the sentence uses information from both sources. There are no sources describing his citizenship in detail, but since he was a finalist for a United States FIBA roster, his nationality would be considered American. The table has been deleted, since most of the information is stated in the article anyways, and I created a new section for his college career. Runningibis (talk) 22:43, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. Nice work! Everything looks good now. Passed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:50, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 21 June 2019

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Draft rights have been traded to the Denver Nuggets per the Nuggets Twitter account. Please edit infobox to reflect this. Additionally, please change opening to “is a Sudanese-American basketball player for the Denver Nuggets of the National Basketball Association (NBA).”--Rockchalk7 17 04:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another source on the nuggets trade: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27021150/bol-bol-sent-nuggets-taken-44th Pennstatephil (talk) 04:40, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:49, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nuggets trade

Player was traded to Denver a few minutes after being drafted by Miami, and his infobox should reflect that.

Requesting for someone with permissions to make that change. Pugchump (talk) 13:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would decline for that, it won’t be official until July 6. --Nbagoodfun (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Nbagoodfun: Only trades like the Anthony Davis cannot be completed until July 6. None of the sources about the trade say anything about it having to wait until July 6 like the Anthony Davis sources have. Additionally, this page lists as an officially completed trade, which for comparison the Lakers 4th overall pick to Pelicans who traded it to the Hawks is listed as a “proposed trade” here. However, this edit request will specifically be declined only because I already made an edit request for it in the section above.--Rockchalk7 17 15:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please edit Bol Bol plays for Denver via trade from Miami Ggray7 (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 22 June 2019

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Change team to from Miami Heat to Denver Nuggets 2001:8003:2376:EB01:E1C2:9A53:B5C4:37B8 (talk) 02:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't see why we're waiting to update his team:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27021150/bol-bol-drafted-44th-heat-traded-nuggets

Ninjalectual (talk) 07:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:49, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2020

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add a picture of Bol Bol on the wiki Bekfestv (talk) 05:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: @Bekfestv: You will need to identify a free image. You can refer to WP:NBAIMAGE.—Bagumba (talk) 07:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

So why can't we add Sudanese to his nationality? He was born there, his father was Sudanese, but the note tells me not to add it, why? MrSplashman77 (talk) 13:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The note was added here, but it mentions a discussion that does not exist. FWIW, that user was block multiple times for unsourced edits and is currently blocked indefinitely.—Bagumba (talk) 15:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]