Talk:Blur

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move — Mets501 (talk)

Requested move (old)

Blur (disambiguation) → Blur – Name predates all other uses and is far more notible than them. As is, the redirect page of "Blur" is and will likely continue to be fought over.

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Support for main reasons stated above. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 22:17, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Why redirect to the dab article? Vegaswikian 00:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Yath 04:43, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

English/British

Noticed that someone has changed 'Blur, a British band' to 'Blur, an English band' on this page. Does Wikipedia have any particular views on this? I'm English but I would always use the word British to describe my nationality and the nationality of others from Britain over the particular part of the UK I/they come from...Cavie78 10:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move (failed)

Blur (band) → Blur — 500 links point to Blur, a disambiguation page, but I doubt any are looking for a page related to optics. All of the pages listed on the disambig page have titles sufficiently distinct from the band's name to avoid confusion. Moving the Blur and Blur (band) to their natural homes makes more sense than fixing all those links Alcuin 23:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Support per above Alcuin 23:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose this is reversing a move only just completed. Linking should not ditacte the page names. What we have is the best, in my view. -- Beardo 00:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for obvious reasons. See below or above. Ace Class Shadow; User talk:Ace Class Shadow. 03:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious reasons? --Alcuin 03:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Common meaning of blur should be presented as default, not a band name. When typing blur into the search box, I'm more in favor of the dictionary word being shown to them. The wikilinks can be fixed for the compendium on the band name. Kevin_b_er 16:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose. The band is clearly not the primary use. It takes something convincing to move a dab article from the primary name and this does not present that case. Vegaswikian 02:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion II

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I get the feeling no formal move request was made. Alc, perhaps you should check out Wikipedia:Requested moves. It might be informtive.

Now, while correct all the links may not seem practical, that is how things are often done. The band is by no means more notible or the most likely use to the searched for. Furthermore, the titles of the other pages were disambiguated for merely for overall clarity, not because of the band. Had the band never existed, the titles would still be as they are. I am sorry for the various—far over five hundred, and more like double that, last time I checked—ambiguous links. However, giving the title to the disambiguation page is far less biased, if that at all, than the way things used to be. Indeed, it seems the band's importance has been badly inflated. The band is named after the word "Blur", whose meaning is, at the moment, only explained here. In fact, I'd wager than at least a third of the links are for the term, not the band. Now, you can always join in the effort to correct the links, but I'm afraid this move request is unlikely to get you very far. Ace Class Shadow; User talk:My talk. 03:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going through "what links here" and there are almost no links not referring to the band. Sure, the band was likely named after the word, but people just aren't likely to wikilink the word blur. After all, this isn't a dictionary, and there's not a whole lot to be said about the word blur except the definition. Things were easier one month ago, there was no need to move things around. --Alcuin 04:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]