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Ackee and Jamaica

Though possibly an important addition to the article for Ackee being the national dish of Jamaica, this section was very poorly written. It is filled grammatical errors and anecdotes rather than concrete information. I highly doubt anyone other than the author really believes Ackee is a type of meat. Of course, as with anything, people eat ackee for the taste. Because something grows on a tree does not mean it is costless. GAThrawn22 (talk) 05:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Ackee is one of the most preferred choices of food in Jamaica for many reasons. Even though ackee is regarded as a fruit, Jamaicans often consider it to be a kind of meat that can be served with a staple or carbohydrate.^{[citation needed]} A lot of people prepare ackee because of its taste, while many also make it a part of their meals because it grows on a tree, which means that it is costless. Majority of Jamaica's population enjoys the taste of ackee and a meal prepared with ackee is highly regarded as cheap, yet delicious. Jamaicans prepare ackee differently and some even add their own special ingredients. Ackee can be prepared with a variety of meat kinds, some of which include sardine, corned pork, chicken back,red herring,salt mackerel and the most popular, ackee and saltfish."

Akee or Ackee?

Don't know myself. Others, preferably West African and Caribbean wikipedians, please comment!

A Google hit test (not a very reliable indicator, but can sometimes be helpful):

Akee - 157,000
Ackee - 226,001
Akee Blighia - 16,400
Ackee Blighia - 721

With the common name alone, Ackee wins, but in combination with the scientific name, Akee wins very strongly. What do others think? - MPF 23:42, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. The Jamaican government website says Ackee [1], as does a UWI-Mona site [2]. The FDA uses the spelling ackee [3], it's favoured 19-4 at fda.gov. usda.gov favours akee 68 to 27. Google scholar (which looks at scientific pubs) favours Ackee 314-286 (although Akee is also a name, so many of the latter hits are not for the fruit). Looking through the Akee/Blighia links, it appears that Akee is favoured by American botanical sites (hort.purdue.edu) and is used on a Kew webpage. But botanic gardens aren't the last word on the issue. It appears that Jamaican-related sites favour ackee, food-related sites also seem to favour ackee. Since these don't tend to include the generic name, this may explain the Blighia disparity.

My sense is that the Jamaican spelling leans towards Ackee, and since Ackee is most strongly associated with Jamaica in English (the UWI-Mona page says that the African name is Akye fufo), that we should go with Ackee. Alternately, we could go with a coin flip ;) Guettarda 15:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I STRONGLY believe that the generally accepted spelling should be Ackee. As indicated by the google hit count Ackee is preferred. After searching technical literature I also find that this is the preferred spelling, although it's interesting that it doesn't show in the google count. I believe that the primary link should be to Ackee and this is in keeping with what the majority of people who would be researching the fruit would type. As a Jamaican, Ackee is commonly studied by school children and if a child spelt it 'Akee' they would be admonished. The pairing of 'blighia' with 'akee' vs. 'ackee' is interesting, but I believe since we are talking about the common name, we should use the most popular spelling from the country where it is reknown for. Believe me, I have asked other Jamaicans about it and they think the idea of the spelling 'akee' is absurd - in fact many have never heard of that spelling. Since Jamaica, is also has the 3rd largest Anglophone population in the Northern Hemisphere, I think we should pay particular attention to the accepted spelling there.

I have also found that 'Akee' is a common last name, and many of the pages accounted for when searching for Akee are in fact referring to a person not the fruit. GAThrawn22 19:24, 02, Jun 2006 (UTC)

Any thoughts from anyone in Nigeria, Ghana, Gambia, etc., (or with experience of usage there), where the species is native?

Unless there are any requests to the contrary from west African users, I'll move the page to Ackee in a day or two - MPF 10:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus is for a move; done. - MPF 23:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many MANY people in south florida have backyard ackee trees especially amongst the Jamaican population in fort lauderdale. It grows readily here with very little maintenance and produces huge quantities of fruit. - Cixel —Preceding unsigned comment added by CiXeL (talk • contribs) 23:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ackee Oil ???

The article says that ackee oil is an important part of the Jamaican diet. What on earth is ackee oil? Is this some kind of a joke? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigel Durrant (talk • contribs) 17:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 March 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. Discussion on a potential split can take place separately, probably there's not consensus for that at this stage, but there does seem to be consensus to move either way. — Amakuru (talk) 11:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blighia sapida → Ackee – Move to common English name per WP:FLORA, since ackee is a significant agricultural crop and the English name is much more common than the Latin name (see Google Trends). There are no significant competing names or other plants sharing the name, although we can retain the hatnote to Melicoccus bijugatus (Bajan ackee). Jpatokal (talk) 08:05, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Plants has been notified of this discussion. Declangi (talk) 00:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that more is needed than just google trends to prove this plant has "an agricultural, horticultural, economic or cultural role or use that makes it more prominent in some other field than in botany". At least as presented I would oppose, but I'm in favor of investigation rather than making a decision on the basis of the first presentation.

As mentioned in the article it is a crop in Jamaica where the official language is English, though unofficially the creole language Jamaican Patois is quite significant. According to the Jamaica article around 65% of Jamaicans speak English either monolingual or bilingual. So I think it fair to say it is an English speaking country.

How significant a crop is it there? "Ackee (Blighia sapida) is the national fruit of Jamaica as well as a component of the dish – ackee and codfish." Source: Jamaican National Fruit That seems fairly important and prominent.

On this basis I'm prepared to support this move, or at the very least splitting the article into one strictly talking about the botany of the plant and turning the redirect in one about the fruit, its uses, and cultivation. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:27, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing this. At this stage I don't see enough content in the article to warrant splitting it though. Jpatokal (talk) 03:11, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.