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Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
  • Article requests : File:Black Army of Hungary.jpg needs proper source, "Table 1" Type section needs refs
  • Assess : First step is done by Fifelfoo. Still waiting for a B assess, before putting it forward.
  • Photo : "some of the images are almost certainly copyvios OR original research"
    All of the images are from commons (Battlemap of Baia is a candidate): 70+ from death of author ({{PD-old}}) or under GNU Free Documentation License {{CC-BY-SA-2.5}})except one (Pavel Chinezul), which is US-only ({{PD-art}} - I don't know if wiki qualifies for that but it's used in other article as well). The descriptions are taken from the original titles and/or descriptions of the paintings/statues, except for Castle of Salgó, which is taken from the corresponding link in the battles table. Baia is taken from the Battle of Baia article and its links. Map is done by me, GNU 3.0. Lajbi Holla @ me 10:53, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wikify : *fn1 Tanner, Marcus (2009-03-18). 404s. ADDED archive url
    • fn2 appeard to have been authored by (R. N. B.)
    Isn't that just a signature? Can Encyclopedia Brittanica 1911 be possibly authored?Lajbi Holla @ me 16:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • fn3 TITLE IN ALL CAPS
    fixed that per Wikipedia:ALL CAPS
    • Hungarian names in footnotes: Are you using Western or Hungarian Name Order?
    Both. I put an indication for that to the top.Lajbi Holla @ me 16:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • fn4 Hunyadi Öcs. MK. (1996-1999). miscited, see the title page; what makes Rakoczi Foundation Heritage Series a reliable publisher. FIXED
    • fn5 Out of style (Kartográfiai Vállalat (Budapest, Hungary). ) FIXED
    • For style: (in Italian) Redaelli, Alberto (1979)
    • Capitalisation: Wargames research Group FIXED
    • fn15 location of (in Hungarian), missing space in Budapest,Hungary FIXED
    • Iliescu, Octavian (2002). TITLE IN CAPS FIXED
    • Formatting for a dateless work: Beham, Markus Peter (). FIXED
    • Fenyvesi, László (1990). location of (in Hungarian). FIXED
    • Generally translations of the article title would be nice for non-English titled works DONE
    • Tóth Zoltán (1925) and Tóth Zoltán (1925) duplicated citation; FIXED
    • Tóth Zoltán (1925); What makes a work from this era dependable in terms of scholarship when it is dealing with national mythos?
    Its usage is restricted in identifying the captains concerned. But if it matters I'll could take them out, but still I say it could stay. Lajbi Holla @ me 19:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Lynn White, jr. (1973). is almost certainly miscited, and that almost certainly isn't its real title FIXED
    • Kukorelly, Endre (2008). King M. (novel). Novels are not reliable for historical fact. FIXED
    • Citation name orders are all over the joint
    No. It is presented the was they are printed on the book itself (because that's official). You can not search for them on the net or even in libraries in reverse order. So it goes like : Hungarians are in family name-given name order and English vice versa.Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 16:24, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Neal Bedford; Janine Eberle (2007). Lonely Planet Vienna. is not reliable for medieval history FIXED
    • Kelényi, György; Farbaky Péter,Széphelyi F. György (2006). Commas or semicolons?
    • Dr. Thallóczy Lajos (1915) . Remove the title FIXED
    • Are you citing the entire kronológiája, or an alphabetically or chronologically ordered article from within it? If you're citing a separate entry in a Tertiary Source, you may as well indicate the entry, and the individual entry author if the entry is signed by the author. Benda, Kálmán (editor) (1981) (in Hungarian). Magyarország történeti kronológiája I /A kezdetektől 1526-ig/. Budapest: Akadémiai Kiadó. p. 276. ISBN 963 05 2661 1. ; for an example, see Bartl, Július; Dusan Skvarna (2002). of how to cite an individual entry.
    • Date out of style, TITLE IN CAPS "CROATIA". England: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy. 02009-02-12February 12, 2009. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CROATIA.htm. FIXED
    • Using a primary source (Antonio Bonfini (1995) [1568]) for facts is Original Research
      • Using a primary source (Thuróczy János (2001) [1488]) for facts is Original Research
      • Date required: Jan Długosz (in Latin). Historiae Polonicae liber XIII.et ultimus.
    If you're talking about the 3rd footnote, the main link (the book that summarizes it is the first reference at the top of the paragraph (Matthias and the humanism). I just thought that it would be useful for readers, that if I say e.g. [Jan Długosz wrote in his book...], than it'll be appropriate to attach a proper ref to it. But I can transform it into a subsentence and insert it like [in his work called...]. Or would it be more stylish to put it in as a footnote?Lajbi Holla @ me 21:26, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Caps in title, possible primary source (source reprint possible): Heltai, Gáspár (1981). FIXED
    • Caps in title, Tibor Szabó (2010-09-11). FIXED
    • Date out of style, what makes the Mayor (or any number of this minor government non-academic offices) reliable sources for the purposes of medieval history? "Vár története" (in Hungarian). Vadna, Hungary: Mayor's office of Vadna. 02008 2008. http://www.vadna.hu/main.php?pg=12&c=39. REPLACED
    • Other : "It doesn't appear as though the article relied upon a scholarly work for its structure or general discourse, but picked the eyes out of internet available source"
    Paragraphs are built up of books dealing with the specific topic (the reason that there are fewer references there than in the battles section, since I used one or two books only at the same time writing it). If you were complaining about the quantity of internet resources used (I don't know your intention) : Four printed books were used (3 of them is 500-600 pages wide, 1 is a part of a miniseries), and plenty of Googlebooks (scanned books), which give the other editors an easier access, and an academic map book (largest available in Hungary in the 90s). Web sources are 30% of the article (17 web to 40 book sources is a badly high rate?). Lajbi Holla @ me 11:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • "The colour of the battle sequences are unreadable" Tried to fix that. Hope it got "lighter".
    • The Table of Contents is over spaced
    It depends on the size of the map placed next to it (and the titles and subsections in the TOC).Lajbi Holla @ me 21:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • The lead looks awkward. For one thing, you could add |left to the image syntax. DONE
    • The article needs a lot of refs. WHERE?
    • In the section 'Battles and respective captains of the Black Army', the table header 'Captains in charge' sounds kind of informal. CHANGED
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