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Picture

It really shouldnt be that hard to find a picture of him and I think that would be a great addition to this page.

Nicknames

Before someone from the northeast freaks out, the nicknames of "The New Jersey con-man" and "The glorified gym teacher" are not a joke. They are known nicknames for him in the Dallas area.

The New York Jets section begins: 'Although Parcells had decided to leave New England, his contract did not allow him to coach anywhere else. The New York Jets sought Parcells to take over their football operation after a 4-28 record under Rich Kotite. Parcells instrumented a remarkable turnaround in his first year with the Jets." What does this mean? How did he get to the Jets if his contract did not allow it?

Nicknames

Those stupid nicknames are only propagated by one hack radio DJ in the Dallas area. They are not widely recognized and have no business being in this entry.

I suspect some Cowboy fans would be happier if a cyrogenically frozen Tom Landry was reanimated to coach their team

Not really coach Phillips has lead the Cowboys to a tie of their best season ever.

I agree with keeping them out the article. If the mainstream media (e.g. ESPN, Dallas Cowboys TV/radio network announcers) start using those nicknames (which is doubtful), they can be added back. 71.113.46.139 20:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence: "After this poor season, Parcells received considerable criticism from the local media, especially radio station 1310 AM, KTCK The Ticket, where show host Mike Rhyner gave Parcells the now popular local nicknames of "The New Jersey Con Man" and "The Glorified Gym Teacher." Is this really npov? How do we know these are popular nicknames with local Dallas fans?

Agreed. Those are nicknames, but they are not widely popular, even in Dallas, EXCEPT with ONE group of people that meet the following criteria - 1) they listen to 1310 am The Ticket radio station (like I do) & 2) they DON'T think that Mike Rhyner is a spare + a complete & utter beating (not me! - the old man SUCKS).

Sorry, those nicknames still bother me. They are editorial commentary that don't belong in an encyclopedic entry. The radio station in question is a very small part of the national and international audience that I think wikipedia is intended to hit. Plus, okay, so one guy on that station doesn't approve of him (Parcells) and made up these nicknames for him. If wikipedia was populated by people's nicknames (or what-have-you) of those they don't approve of, it would be full of unreadable trash.

I don't think "Big Putz" has ever been one of Parcells' nicknames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.72.14 (talk) 04:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Mangini?

I don't think Eric Mangini ever worked under Bill Parcells. Can someone check that out? I don't think he did.

Oh, never mind, he did work with the Jets when Parcells was coaching.

==Bill Bellicek"

Why is this entire article more about Bill Bellicek than Bill Parcells?Q" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.27.144 (talk) 04:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Nolan?

I put together the Coaching tree article and I still haven't been able to figure out where Parcells had influence on Mike Nolan. Nolan was brought up and groomed by Dan Reeves in Denver and joined the Giants staff at the same time Reeves took over Parcells head coaching job there. I don't think Nolan should be on the list. Just Vikings

For that matter, how can anyone consider Jim Fassel a "Parcells disciple"? No, Mike Nolan never served under Parcells, nor did Marvin Lewis or Nick Saban. Saban was on Belichick's staff in Cleveland, but is definitely not a "former Parcells assistant". Marvin Lewis is, if anything, a Cowher guy. Caped Crusader 18:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I found out that Mike Nolan served as DC under Al Groh for one year on the Jets in 2000. Groh is considered to be a disciple of Parcells, but its not a very strong connection between Nolan and Parcells. Just Vikings

Flu?

Also, during 2006 he refused to take off his jacket during a game for good luck and recieved [sic.] the flu.

I fixed this to use a little more idiomatic American English -- I don't think I've ever heard of anyone receiving a disease -- but I still have no idea what it's saying. Usually I associate catching influenza with being too lightly-dressed. Why on earth would keeping his jacket on lead to him to catch the flu? Cheers, PhilipR 05:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it the absence of any explanation. If someone thinks it's an important detail and needs to be in there, fine, but please explain why keeping his jacket on subjected him to the flu. Also you need to cite sources. Cheers, PhilipR 05:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I remember this game, the postgame was covered on NFL network. Parcells has some sort of superstition about not taking off his jacket/coat/windbreaker, if he is wearing one, if the team is not winning. He left it on for quite some time and became ill due to overheating or something...

Thanks for the explanation. If you can document that anecdote, feel free to add it back. But please mention the overheating for the easily-confused like me. :) - PhilipR 17:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One of the reasons Bill wouldn't take his windbreaker off was because of the Gatorade showers he was the victim of a few times. After one such shower Bill, who had a bad back, wrenched his back when he tensed up and was in quite a bit of pain for awhile afterwards. Thus, he started keeping his windbreaker on ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.189.133 (talk) 08:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Dallas Coach"

Probably not important enough to be included in the article, but is there a reason why Parcells is the only NFL head coach not to appear in the Madden series of video games? The Dallas coach in the series is just a generic cipher called, well, "Dallas Coach". (Actually "DALLAS COACH", all uppercase). All the other coaches are present and correct, and yet Parcells is completely missing - and he's not even replaced by a "Bill Purcell" or suchlike, so one's attention is drawn to his absence. I'm wondering if there was some kind of union agreement over the rights to use coaches' names and photos or something, and he was the only one who opted out? Or maybe EA Sports didn't offer him enough money, or he's closely linked with a rival series of games, or he intensely dislikes John Madden as a person, or he just plain didn't want to be involved, or something else which might make for an interesting bit of trivia...?

--Parcells is not a member of the NFL Players/Coaches Association. Therefore, EA Sports does not have the rights to use his name in their games.

--and for the record, neither is Bill Bilichick, which is why he is labeled "NE Coach"

Waht about Wade Phillips? Is he in the Association? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.119.61 (talk) 19:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe so, yes. Enigmaman (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Text Error

The text states different win-loss record than the record listed in the information box. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jaedglass (talk • contribs) 12:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

ESPN

I saw on NFL Network that Bill Parcells has been hired by ESPN as an analyst. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? I was thinking maybe he would take Irvin's job on Sunday NFL Countdown (so I put Parcells name on there.) ESPN made a statement during the 11:00 sportscenter on 2/17 that "Michael Irvin is no longer working at ESPN".Tigersfan1992 18:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coors Light?

Why is there a link to the "Coors Light" article in the "See Also" section? Is there some connection between Bill Parcells and Coors Light? I couldn't find any references to any connection. If there is a valid reason for this link being present, is should be explained. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abonet (talk • contribs) 16:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's in commercials of theirs. They're on TV all the time.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 18:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rejection of Buccaneers Job

The article mentions that Parcells turned down the Buccaneers' HC job in 1992, but doesn't mention that he did the same thing in 2002 after Tony Dungy was fired. That needs to be in there. GuySperanza (talk) 13:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Billionaire Parcelus

Some one is obviously trying to be funny by claiming parcell's name was originally billionaire parcellus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.56.198 (talk) 07:55, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How to pronounce Parcells

How to pronounce Parcells, [pɑrˈsɛlz], or [pɑrˈsɛl], or other.--Tiyoringo (talk) 22:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The first, "PAR-sells". --Jayron32 06:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. It's "Par-SELLS." Find any credible audio/video evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.85.24 (talk) 23:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Minor formatting error

In the section "Team(s) as a coach/administrator," the dates on the chart become out of alignment with the teams/positions after the year 2000. Would have changed it myself but it appears the page is locked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.230.5 (talk) 06:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it and it got reverted. I guess I'm not the only one with this issue. It's probably because some people have widescreen computers, so each line only takes one line, while I have a normal screen, and they fall out of alignment. This has to be addressed. --67.180.161.183^(talk)_{00:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)}[reply]

I checked it on two separate computers, neither or which are wide screen, and the formatting was fine however, there have been issues with Infobox NFL coach so it's going to be switched over to Infobox NFL player to see if that helps. -- The Writer 2.0 ^Talk 12:28, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Intro Paragraph

Not sure how his "leading the Jets to the AFC Championship Game" is more noteworthy in the intro than his leading of the New England Patriots to the Super Bowl. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.98.40 (talk) 01:09, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When/Why did he leave Miami?

The article only mentions his first year in Miami.

I think it should mention their record over the rest of the time he was involved with the Dolphins and why and when he left the Dolphins.

New picture

Does anyone have a new (or newer) picture of Parcells? It's strange to me that the infobox has an image from 1978. Natg 19 (talk) 17:24, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]