Talk:Bidu Sayão

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my edit

I rewrote many sentences. Since I do not know anything about her life, I did not change the content that much (just to make it clearer). However, I did delete this: "At a time when most would have expected her to be welcomed home in Brazil as a hero, she had a bad experience on stage that left her forever bitter. However, despite this, after her February 1938 performance at the White House, she declined President Franklin Roosevelt's suggestion she obtain American citizenship." I didn't know how to clean this up--What was the bad experience on stage?--plus this web site [1], which is referenced in the article, contradicts the first sentence of the deleted text. Hinkhouse 01:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

The correct spelling of her nickname is Bidu (unaccented), although some sources may incorrectly display an accent over the letter u (especially the older ones from the first decades of the twentieth century, when accentuating words ending in -u was a relatively common mistake even in Brazil). —capmo (talk) 06:26, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Pronunciation

The lede states: "(pronounced bee-DOO sigh-OWN" which leads the reader to believe - in the English speaking language - phonetically that Sayão's last name is to be pronounced "own" as in "to own something". There is no "n" at the end of Sayão's name. It is merely pronounced "sigh-OW". As can be heard in this clip: VOICE OF FIRESTONE with Bidu Sayão; and here: Bidú Sayão - Madam Butterfly. I will change it as it is misleading. Maineartists (talk) 13:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The "n" was there as an attempt to indicate the (correct) nasal sound of the last vowel, but you were right in removing it, because attempting to show nasal vowels in terms of "plain English" (i.e. pretending all other languages of the world are just defective dialects of English) is a confusing failure. The only way to show her name properly is to use one of the pronunciation guides that has a built-in way of showing nasal vowels. I wonder why Wikipedia doesn't just require the use of IPA. Oh wait, it actually does. :) TooManyFingers (talk) 15:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]