Talk:Bereshit (parashah)

Land of Nod/East of Eden was inhabited by people

The Genasis Story indirectly refers to people being in the Land of Nod/East of Eden. Genesis 4:17 relates that after arriving in the Land of Nod, Cain's wife bore him a son, Enoch, in whose name he built the first city. 2601:586:C701:4135:587C:F645:E3A3:DF15 (talk) 20:20, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

And some will argue that this means that Adam and Eve had twins when they bore Cain and Abel and that those folks supplied Cain's wife and other inhabitants. My point is that this is an uncertainty in the text about which commentators have argued (and thus perhaps the stuff of a footnoted discussion later in the article) and not the stuff of a summary. Thanks. -- Dauster (talk) 10:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Correct number of verses???

"The parashah is made up of 7,235 Hebrew letters, 1,931 Hebrew words, 146 verses, and 241 lines in a Torah Scroll (סֵפֶר תּוֹרָה‎, Sefer Torah).[1]" but ... the number of verses in Genesis according to http://www.biblestudy101.org/Lists/statisticsHB.html is 1,533.

Q: How are verses counted in Hebrew?

Aaronxn (talk) 15:25, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Aaronxn. The difference can be explained by this being an article about the first Torah reading in the book of Genesis, not the entire book of Genesis. The statistics for the Torah reading come from "Bereshit Torah Stats" at Akhlah. Be well. -- Dauster (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

I would question why the number of Hebrew letters, words, verses and lines in a Torah scroll are considered as appropriate material for the article leads in Bereshit (parashah) and the other articles in the Torah parashot series. It is fine to include the relevant numbers later in each article, but Wikipedia:Lead states that an article lead should provide "a summary of its most important contents", which does not cover these details. Would there be any objections to moving each of these counts, either to the "Readings" section of each article, below the lead paragraph, or to some suitable point later in each article? - BobKilcoyne (talk) 20:11, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

"open portion"

This term is used multiple times. What does it mean? Editor2020 (talk) 23:15, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Very long tag

I can't see any discussion regarding the "very long" tag added by Nikkimaria recently, although the template for this tag directs readers towards a talk page discussion. All of these torah parashah articles have a common structure covering the readings within the torah portion and a standardised assessment of parallels and biblical, rabbinic, medieval and modern interpretation, so I would counsel against making an article split or changes to the structure of one article in the series without considering applying these to the series as a whole. BobKilcoyne (talk) 06:24, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

The series as a whole would benefit from structural changes, given that length and level of detail seems to be a common problem among them. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Addition of an infobox with "previous" and "next"

Hey — I am a newcomer to reading about the Torah on Wikipedia. Over the past few weeks I have been referencing pages like this one (as I follow along with the weekly Torah readings), and I have found myself wanting to easily navigate to the previous or next readings. To me it feels like these pages are all connected to each other in a clear linear fashion (i.e. Weekly Torah portion#Table of weekly readings). Might it make sense to use an infobox that includes a "previous" and "next" button to help people more easily navigate among this "series" of articles? I am not suggesting this infobox specifically, but something like: Template:Infobox television episode. I appreciate any input people are willing to share. Thanks. Hold your horses (talk) 02:37, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Error in overview text

This page describes the result of Eve and Adam eating the fruit as being, "God curses them and expels them from the Garden of Eden." when in reality, God curses the ground for their sake. See the following from the end of Genesis 3:17:

"cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;" - ASV

The only entity cursed by God in Genesis 3 is the serpent. This is a request to update the text to reflect what actually happens in the Bible. I will attempt to do it myself, but I'm sure it will be reverted. Thank you to whoever corrects this mistake. Poetebertram (talk) 15:50, 9 December 2023 (UTC)