Talk:Belarusian grammar

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Palatalized "s" and "z"

It seems that s' & z' are not [ɕ] & [ʑ], at least they are quite different from both Polish si/zi and Russian щ/жж which are [ɕ]/[ʑ]. In the same time they are different from Russian с'/з' which are palatalized [s]/[z]. So I really don't know what Belarusian s' & z' are. --Koryakov Yuri 19:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is quite possible you're right. These IPA definitions may be quite inaccurate, even fictitious, and/or WP:OR'ed. If you have good sources, please make corrections. The 1985 edition of grammar doesn't contain IPA definitions. Yury Tarasievich 22:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You were right, those IPA equivalents of s' and z', and possibly some others, seem to be somebody's invention. The articulation definitions of those look suspicious, too. Yury Tarasievich 22:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

I'm not sure about my translation of articulation places in the newly added table. Some of the English terms seem too detailed, and some too generic, to make a undisputable connection to Belarusian terms. Labials were no problem, for others I've used the following translations:

"пярэднеязычныя зубныя" (lit. front-of-tongue dental) = alveolar
"пярэднеязычныя пярэднепаднябенныя" (lit. front-of-tongue front-of-palate) = alveolo-palatal
"сярэднеязычныя сярэднепаднябенныя" (lit. middle-of-tongue middle-of-palate) = palatal
"заднеязычныя заднепаднябенныя" (lit. back-of-tongue back-of-palate) = glottal/velar

Yury Tarasievich 11:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]