Talk:Belén Rodríguez

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She is one of the most popular television personalities in Italy

This should not be deleted. I am working on it to prove that she is notable.--Tatiana kitty (talk) 13:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please give me time. This is my first article. Do not delete yet.--Tatiana kitty (talk) 13:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please cite the sources you are using to write this article. That will demonstrate notability.--RadioFan (talk) 13:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop changing birth place

She was not born in Italy so please stop changing article.--Tatiana kitty 17:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatiana kitty (talk • contribs)

A complete rewrite of this article is suggested

The level of English used is consistently poor from start to finish and lacks the necessary quality for an encyclopedic article. It reads like a badly done translation, replete with grammatical mistakes and unnatural sentence structures. Hence, a complete rewrite is recommended. Veritycheck (talk) 21:48, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I rewrote the lead yesterday, taking time to correct numerous grammatical mistakes and awkward sentences. Subsequently, an unregistered user then reedited the article returning it to its original unreadable state. I have reverted it. There is no vandalism. See WP:VANDAL

The article is still nowhere near finished, but at least the work has started. Please refrain from editing it if you are not sure that your level of English meets with Wikipedia’s required encyclopedic standard. It seems that some of the users who have edited here would be better suited to working on the article for their own language version of Wikipedia.Veritycheck (talk) 00:31, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The following represents a single sentence taken from the article. It is indicative of the level of English used throughout. I have removed citations to make it easier to read, if that is even possible.

In January 2015 definitely ended the professional relationship, which began ten years ago, between Belen Rodriguez and Milan fashion shows for John Richmond in favor of the Venezuelan model Mariana Rodríguez assisted by Paola Benegas (who ten years earlier had launched Belen in the world of fashion: this news caused a sensation at the Italian press for this reason, but also because of the alleged relationship, that in reality does not exist, between "the two Rodríguez" launched by the agency of Paola Benegas at Milan fashion shows of Richmond, that are Belen and Mariana).

Should an article written in this manner and in its current state be included in Wikipedia? I think not. Veritycheck (talk) 19:56, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please, with this arguments you lost the AFD. Plaese, stop trolling: ok?--151.67.43.10 (talk) 23:05, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks to Corinne and others from the Guild of Copy Editors for their hardwork in transforming this embarrassingly poorly written article into one that people interested in Belén Rodríguez can actually understand. Let's hope the unregistered users who have vandalized it in the past and those who don’t have the requisite level of English to edit articles on the English language version of this article stay away. Veritycheck✔️ (talk) 14:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

For my part I thank you, Veritycheck. I'd just like to add that if any editor would like to make a constructive edit to the article but is unsure as to how to word, or express, it, he or she can request assistance. – Corinne (talk) 14:30, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at User talk:Mz7#Many thanks

You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:Mz7#Many thanks. Mz7 (talk) 22:54, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing and BLP issues

This article suffers from numerous sourcing and BLP issues, which are frankly too numerous to even numerate (just glance at these two subsections and the sources they cite to get an idea). I have semi-protected it for a year to prevent continuing damage but is there a clean(er) version in the article history it can be reverted to (as a start of a clean-up effort)? Pinging @Mz7, Veritycheck, and Corinne: for input. Abecedare (talk) 22:14, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing this up, Abecedare. I agree, this is a terrible article. I last involved myself with this article back when I was a brand new administrator, and I wasn't really sure what to do. As a start, I've gone ahead removed that whole "Controversies" section as an WP:UNDUE violation. The sourcing was also woefully subpar for a BLP. Mz7 (talk) 22:29, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've tagged this for {{COI}} (it reads like output from a public-relations firm), and am toning down the WP:PUFFERY as part of a copyedit. Miniapolis 21:29, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]