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Very good but... pics? refs should be inline? infobox Welcome Victuallers 19:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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"Bedales is noted for its beautiful arts and crafts library,...Bedales school is also renowned for its liberal ethos and relaxed attitude, which has been the subject of controversy in recent years."

Noted by who? renowned by who, why has its relaxed attitude been controversial and why in recent years only?

Everything in this article may be perfectly accurate but how is the reader supposed to know. I don't claim to know anything about this school but for someone who does the article needs Wikipedia:Verifiability Alci12 13:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What does "However this ehthos is reverting to Charterhousian views" mean, please? If it refers to the school Charterhouse (whose adjectival form, as far as I am aware, is Carthusian, not Charterhousian), with its radically different foundation, history, culture and ethos, then this is such a radical observation that it needs pretty solid substantiation if it is to be allowed to stand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.108.78.10 (talk) 16:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alumni

I'm not sure why people have been deleted from the alumni list with the explanation "unexplained notability". The notability of many of them is fairly obvious (Sir Peter Wright was both a knight and Director of Sadler's Wells, for instance - how can he possibly have "unexplained notability"?). Most also appear in the Dictionary of National Biography. And please note that being redlinked is not a criterion for deletion. -- Necrothesp 17:18, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you check who each of these people is and verify that they are indeed ex-alumni? From Wikipedia's official policy on verifiability: The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it. Redlink indeed isn't a deletion criterion; please note that lack of verifiable reliable sources however is. The article has exactly one sourced entry at this time; I hope the non-redlinks contain relevant sources in the persons' own articles.

Articles on schools are magnets for every jill & jack putting their own names in. So it's a good idea to keep some order on unsourced and unexplained information. If you or someone can keep tabs on what gets included and verify the entries then that's way cool! Or even better of course if you can volunteer the time: write stubs on any notable people so others don't need to wonder who some "engineer and tool collector" is (despite his title in this article quick googling suggests he might indeed be notable.). Weregerbil 17:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know all that - I watch school articles for vandalism endlessly myself. However, and I've said this before on other school articles, it is usually pretty obvious who is adding rubbish to the lists of notable alumni. a) They're rarely dead, and even if they are, b) They usually have either very silly names or very silly descriptions or both. I think it's a little premature to remove every red link and claim their notability has not been proved. I could add a footnote to every entry stating they're included in the DNB (and yes, every entry I've added attended Bedales according to the DNB), but that, I think, would look a little strange and would be overkill. Since the online DNB is not open access, there is not a lot of point in providing links to individual articles. Any suggestions? -- Necrothesp 18:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Co-educational Quaker Boarding Schools in England and Northern Ireland, founded before Bedales

Ackworth School, Yorkshire 1799.
Friends School Lisburn, County Antrim, Northern Ireland 1774
Friends School Saffron Walden 1702
Sibford School Oxfordshire 1842
Sidcot School, Somerset 1808

Claim that Bedales was the first co-ed boarding school removed. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 19:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Old Bedalians (alphabetical by surname)

Apart from not being alphabetical, a number of other issues of accuracy are apparent:

Wrong links

John Clapham - link to wrong one (I've unlinked)

Margaret Gardiner - link to wrong one (I've unlinked)

Peter Wright - bad link (I've unlinked)

Discrepancies

According to their Wikipedia entries:

Tom Conway was educated at Brighton College

Sophie Dahl is an Old Millfieldian

Esmond Romilly was educated at Wellington College

George Sanders was also educated at Brighton College

Camilla Wedgwood attended Orme Girls' School

Wilfred Brown was educated at Collyer's and taught at Bedales.

I have deleted the above six from the list and leave it to others to reinsert if evidence found. I have also repaired the alphabetic listing. Emeraude (talk) 15:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also removed links within the list. They were used inconsistently, tended to clutter up the section and are not needed - this section should, rather like a disambiguation page, link only to the primary article. Emeraude (talk) 15:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added back Camilla Wedgwood and edited her page to indicate her Bedales attendance (she also attended Orme). Info from the Australian Dictionary of Biography Erp (talk) 15:22, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are a prize dipshit, Emeraude. Have you considered that children may attend more than one school? --84.67.92.88 (talk) 21:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you considered that your vocabulary demonstrates an appalling lack of good manners? Probably not. Anyway, read what I wrote - I never said that any of those I removed did not go to Bedales; I said that there was evidence they went elsewhere and none that I could find for Bedales, which is why I have carefully listed them above and invited others to reinstate as and when and if the evidence can be found. Incidentally, I could, in accord with Wikipedia policy have deleted ALL BUT TWO from the list, since no references are given for the others.

Thank you Erp for reinstating Wedgwood. I have moved your source into the article. Emeraude (talk) 22:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Attribution of Buildings and their construction

For some reason the description of the Arts & Crafts buildings, which I had amended to read:

Bedales is noted for its grounding in the Arts and Crafts Movement and its Grade 1 listed buildings: the arts and crafts library (1920–1921) designed by Ernest Gimson (built after Gimson's death by Old Bedalian Geoffrey Lupton) and the Gimson-designed Lupton Hall (1911).

has been downgraded to just read:

the campus also two Grade-1 listed arts and crafts buildings designed by Ernest Gimson - the Lupton Hall (completed in 1911) and the Memorial Library (1921)

rather than just reinstate my version giving credit to the OB builder - which I could do - I shall question the usefulness of the views of the contributor concerned in this and other areas. Gardencitizen (talk) 14:55, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Old Bedalians

I'm not sure it makes much sense to have a section listing all the supposedly notable ex pupils of Bedales. All the elite English public schools are part of the private conveyor belt system that delivers students to Oxbridge and hence to the UK power elite. It's hard for kids to go through this system and *not* end up notable as adults. That's why their parents spend a fortune to send them there. Ef80 (talk) 20:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]