Talk:Battle of the Volturno

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion not met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion not met

Associated task forces:
/
	European military history task force
	Italian military history task force (c. 500–present)

name

I think this us usually referred to as the Battle of the Volturno, also helps disambiguation. PatGallacher (talk) 22:15, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 March 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved per consensus including Battle of the Volturnus (554) . (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 12:21, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Volturnus (1860) → Battle of the Volturno – common name PatGallacher (talk) 22:51, 15 March 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. Jerm (talk) 14:43, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - yes and? --Gonnym (talk) 14:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think we may be both taking cryptically here. However I think "Battle of the Volturno" is how I have normally seen people refer to this battle, most Wikipedias in other languages use the equivalent of this term, it is the modern Italian name for the river. PatGallacher (talk) 16:55, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The two sources I have consulted, the Times' obituary of Garibaldi, and Trevelyan's "Garibaldi and the Making of Italy", both refer to it as the Volturno. PatGallacher (talk) 17:10, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - I understand your common name argument, but you are removing the disambiguation. That has nothing to do with the name. You still have Battle of the Volturnus (554) and I see no gain from losing the disambiguation here. --Gonnym (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:COMMONNAME. The soldiers who fought in the 1860 battle spoke Italian not Latin. I'd be somewhat surprised if anyone had ever referred to that battle as "Volturnus".

This looks like a case of WP:SMALLDIFFS, where neither battle needs a year qualifier (i.e. Battle of the Volturnus (554) and Battle of the Volturno (1860)) and where reciprocal hatnotes would be a better solution than a DAB page. Narky Blert (talk) 13:41, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per the above, and quashing both disambiguation pages in favor of hatnote disambiguation from the respective similarly-but-differently named battles. BD2412 T 16:27, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- We already have this approach at Battle of Falkirk and Battle of Falkirk Muir. PatGallacher (talk) 16:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.