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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that at the battle of the Great Plains in 203 BC most of the Carthaginian army fled, except for 4,000 Iberians who fought to the death?

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Translation Dutch text

The section:" Hasdrubal positioned the Spanish mercenaries in the centre ............ The Spanish mercenaries were all but a few killed. Only a handful managed to escape." is an exact translation of the Dutch text. The Dutch text was also written by me. Wereldburger758 (talk) 16:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Africanus?

I asked this question on the Battle of Zama talk page: Africanus was not called Africanus till after these battles. Shouldn't these articles use his birthname? 69.201.168.196 (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Hog Farm _Talk 18:17, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 18:26, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look at this soon (hopefully this weekend). Hog Farm _Talk 18:26, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

" After several month's of little activity Scipio" - this may be an AmEng/BrEng issue, but should the apostrophe be ommitted?

LOL. Removed.

Link both Hannibal and Mago in the lead

Done.

"and imposed a further 1,200 talent indemnity.[note 2][9][10] actions which fuelled Carthaginian resentment." - should the period after indemnity be a comma?

Yes. Nice spot.

"established a strong camp on a flat floodplain of the Bagradas River known as the Great Plains. " - not seeing where Goldsworthy mentions a floodplain, although it's hard to make sure I'm not just overlooking the mention because the edition Internet Archive has doesn't have page numbers

I'm not sure where that came from. Removed.

"On the Roman right flank were the cavalry attached to the four legions with Laelius in command" - The Goldsworthy edition on Internet Archive doesn't seem to mention Laelius - am I look at a different edition than the one you have?

No. Probably me reading past what it actually says. Source which does specify this added.

Masinissa taking over Syphax's kingdom is mentioned in the lead, but not in the body.

Ah, whoops. Fixed.

Something seems wrong with the pagination for Rawlings 2015 - p. 305 is cited, but the given range in the long citation isn't anywhere close to p. 305

Gah. I gave the range of a completely different chapter. Thanks for spotting.

Are Briscoe and Scullard chapters from the same larger work? If so, recommend making the long citations more consistent

Weeell. Chapters from different volumes of the same overall "work". Within that limitation, standardised.

Sources all appear to be reliable
No issues with image licensing noted

Good work here, placing on hold. Hog Farm _Talk 02:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks Hog Farm. You caught some tricksy bits. All addressed. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:58, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Dying (talk) 09:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that at the battle of the Great Plains in 203 BC most of the Carthaginian army fled, except for 4,000 Iberians who fought to the death? Source: Bagnall, Nigel (1999). The Punic Wars: Rome, Carthage and the Struggle for the Mediterranean. London: Pimlico. ISBN 978-0-7126-6608-4, p. 280-281.
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Improved to Good Article status by Gog the Mild (talk). Self-nominated at 18:28, 29 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Battle of the Great Plains, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Can't verify hook claim (offline), however, source is RS. No image and QPQ done. Earwig shows copyvio free. Recently improved to GA status. NPOV. Very interesting hook and the article is a fascinating read! Chetsford (talk) 00:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary background?

Is it really needed to have a a separate section dedicated to the background of the 1st and 2nd Punic War, I feel like these secitons arent necessary. Deleting the whole background section would make this article much more concise to the topic of the battle itself, the prelude sections serves to include more than enough information for the background of the battle. Asetpath (talk) 21:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]