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Add a Ukrainian unit that took part during the defence of kyiv in 2022 to the infobox. It's the dzjokhar dudayev battalion. Some sources that the battalion was there: https://kyivindependent.com/national/meet-the-chechens-fighting-russia-in-ukraine https://www.dw.com/en/chechen-and-tatar-muslims-take-up-arms-to-fight-for-ukraine/a-61174375 Ola Tønningsberg (talk) 18:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Colonestarrice (talk) 16:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change the name from "battle of Kyiv" for "Battle for Kyiv"

I suggest that we change the name from "Battle of Kyiv" to "Battle for Kyiv". The reasoning behind this change, is due to the nature of the battle. For Russia the objective of the battle was to capture Kyiv whereas for the Ukrainians, it was to defend and keep control of the capital. Therefore it was a battle 'for' the control of the capital. When 'of' is used it signifies merely the location of a battle. One example is the Battle of Agincourt, named so, because the battle took place at the village of Agincourt. In this case it's not only a battle at Kyiv, it's a battle for Kyiv. Therefore, to be precise in our language I suggest we change the name to "Battle for Kyiv". Danicus Politicus (talk) 14:53, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voluntary withdrawal?

Speaking on Saturday, Putin said that Ukraine was responsible for sabotaging the negotiations. “After we pulled our troops away from Kiev – as we had promised to do – the Kiev authorities … tossed [their commitments] into the dustbin of history,” he said. “They abandoned everything.” https://archive.is/Gnple is this real ? Thisexistswelp (talk) 02:22, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, at least the Istanbul accords/negotiations should get mentioned.

~ Valentinianus I (talk) 08:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kyiv authorities do not confirm that any promises took place and Ukrainian forces were chasing and striking fleeing Russian forces. Those negotiations should be mentioned as "terms that were rejected by Kyiv".

"Promises" usually appear when Russian is lying. For example, the mythic "promise" of NATO "to not expand to the East". 176.113.167.189 (talk) 09:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Careful Thisexistswelp. Questioning anti-Russian propaganda and disinformation on Wikipedia is completely forbidden. You will get banned if you mention anything remotely connected to reality. 217.21.155.119 (talk) 21:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lol Nicodene (talk) 00:35, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bro, ruscist claims about mythic "promises" are state-level cringe. There is no such thing as "promises" in politics, there are international agreements for that. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 10:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This whole article is nonsense

This whole article is premised on propaganda and unsupported assertions. 142.181.220.202 (talk) 14:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've come to the same conclusion as you regarding "nonsense" but perhaps for different reasons. This article containts nothing particularly unique in the way of content and is, in my opinion, a prime target to be merged into the page Northern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article contains the detailed info of the specific main key part of Northern front operations. Pay attention to the different dates. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 10:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]