Talk:Balladeering (album)

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Requested move 10 November 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. No consensus for move. Not moved. Consensus against moving. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 01:22, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Balladeering (album) → Balladeering – revert undiscussed move – Dohn joe (talk) 18:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dohn joe and In ictu oculi: "Balladeering" means what a balladeer does, for centuries before this album was recorded. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:ASTONISH and WP:MOVE. This Danish jazz album's claim to pass WP:NMUSIC is based on being part of a trilogy of jazz albums by the Danish guitarist shortlisted, but didn't win, the Nordic Council Music Prize 2014. Okay so deserves a stub. But look at Google Books, Page 7 of about 2,850 results (0.17 seconds), wheras the album gets zero mentions, 0. That then leaves us with Balladeer being the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of Balladeering and WP:CRITERIA and WP:NCM requiring (album) for an obscure Danish jazz album. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:05, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Andersen Genre Theory in Information Studies 2015 p.145 "McLane (2010) argues that balladeering is a general term that defines a loosely connected but strongly hierarchized network, encompassing everything from the singing, making, inventing, forging, collecting, transcribing, sifting, and editing to the printing of ballads” (McLane, 2010, p.247)"

Oppose per IIO above. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 08:40, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Wikipedia is WP:NOTADICTIONARY. There is no other topic on WP called "Balladeering". And Balladeer itself is just a short disambiguation page. Why make Balladeering a redirect to a dab page when we have an actual article with content at that title? Also - since this article was recently moved without discussion, a no consensus result here means a revert to the previous status quo. Dohn joe (talk) 15:59, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But we have an article, what's the issue? Ballad isn't that an article? Looks like an article to me. Why is Balladeering not part of Ballad or Balladeer? Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary doesn't mean topics have to be titles. See hurricane as the classic example. Would we have Hurricane be an article about a trivial subject or a redirect? In ictu oculi (talk) 17:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I've corrected the primary topic - it should have been Ballad, not Balladeer. Peter James (talk) 02:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Opposed Not primary topic, as per IIO above.Tiggerjay (talk) 00:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.