Talk:Balaklava

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Name

What was its name before Ottomans? It would be incorrect to call it Balaklava before Turks. There must be some Greek name. mikka (t) 22:19, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Issue appears to have been resolved -- names have been added. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 04:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As a citation, the Greek name Συμβολον,

- latinised as Cimbolon, appears on this wiki map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/CASTELNAU%281827%29_p2.397_CARTE_DE_LA_CRIMEE.jpg (1827, British Library, Accession number HMNTS 9455.bb.20, extracted from page 397 of volume 2 of Essai sur l'histoire ancienne et moderne de la nouvelle Russie …, by CASTELNAU, Gabriel de - Marquis )

- Germanised as Simbalo, appears in the map "Neűe Ungarisch- und Türckische Grosse Land-Charte", 1690, by Hoffmann, Johann, hosted at the Moravian library.

Fact Table

The area code mentioned in the table is now defunct. Only the Russian code, +7(8962), is now functioning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varepsilon i (talk • contribs) 18:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

History, Archipelago

There's a note in the History section, on the the Archipelago immigration, calling for citation. Here it is, from Google books

- "Edinburgh History of the Greeks", 1768 to 1913, Thomas W Gallant, chapter "Catherine's Greek project", on mentioning the "Balaclava brigade". By Archipelago the article would rather refer to the Aegean.

- "Diaspora Merchants in the Black Sea: The Greeks in Southern Russia, 1775-1861", Vasilēs A. Kardasēs, page 38, two thousand Greek settlers

Casualty figures

The current version of the wiki-article about the Charge of the Light Brigade states that the brigade lost 118 men killed and 127 wounded (and also that 362 horses were killed). This differs significantly from what is stated in this article: about 500 (presumably only human) deaths.--3 Löwi 14:52, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. The 500 number is because of unwitty maths: since of 700 only 195 were left, the rest must be total losses. The common misinterpretation is omissin of the word "mounted": the fact is 195 were left mounted, and this number is dominated by heavy losses in horses, rather than in personnel. mikka (t) 17:42, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Balaclava / Balaklava

So why Balaklava rather than Balaclava? And why the balaclava (not the balaklava)?-- ALoan (Talk) 14:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per the Lonely Planet guide, Ukraine, it seems that balaclava is an Anglicised twist on the name owing to the Crimean War, when English women sent knitted full-cover caps to sailors whom were dying from the cold. The address on the packages containing these caps was written just as the English-speaking populace heard it sound. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 04:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image needs replacement

Hello all...

An image used in the article, specifically Image:Balaklava.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.

You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 September 2017

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Change calling code to +7-8692 in the facts table as it's the only currently functioning one. 2620:0:106B:6:6888:FF43:AD94:A166 (talk) 14:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2017

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MarcoFugaccia (talk) 18:16, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

https://imgur.com/JYGU9xA

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:04, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

City or town?

The article starts by calling Balaclava a city, later amended to 'town'. If it is indeed a city, when did it become so? Crawiki (talk) 19:23, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is no distinction between a "city" and a "town" in either Ukrainian or Russian. In articles about Russian places, a somewhat arbitrary population threshold of 100,000 is used to distinguish between "cities" (larger localities) and "towns" (smaller ones)—both are called gorod in Russian, though. In articles about Ukrainian places, editors keep going back and forth, and currently seem to be using the city/town terms interchangeably, or favor "city". In articles about places in Crimea (a disputed territory), it's anyone's guess. I would personally recommend consistently using "town" for Balaklava (since it's pretty small), but there is currently nothing in our guidelines to support this recommendation; just using common sense here. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 17, 2018; 16:59 (UTC)