Talk:Bachelor's degree/Archive 2008

Portugal

Until 2 years ago a "bacharelato" was the standard 3/4 year course ... only 5 year courses were called "licenciatura". due to the "bologna process" the "bacharelato" naming was droped and 3/4 years courses started to be called "licenciatura" while 5 years course started to be called "mestrado" (master) ... eventually all previously atributed 5 years courses were given a "Master" post-grade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sotavento (talk • contribs) 22:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

BIS

BIS can also be a Bachelor of International Studies in a number of Australian universities possibly others. http://www.flinders.edu.au/courses/ugrad/bachelor/bis.htm 121.45.42.227 (talk) 11:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Requesting addition of Bachelor of Liberal Studies

Please add "Bachelor of Liberal Studies" to the list of B.A. degrees. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.139.151 (talk) 03:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Done, I previously added the Bachelor of Liberal Studies degree to the list but it has since been edited. I know it is a real degree as I have a Bachelor of Liberal Studies myself from the College of Mount Saint Joseph in Ohio, U.S.A.. --Paulsprecker (talk) 03:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

The Category itself is broken

This is a mess. It is impossible for these pages to be structured like this. As an example, Computer Science can be given a Bachelor of Computer Science or a Bachelor of Science, Bachelor of Arts, Bachelor of Computing, or even Bachelor of Technology through a specialty. This whole page and section needs a total restructure.--AlphaTwo 04:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I've begun to change the structure to a format similar to Master's degree. The information I wrote was basically reworded from the main articles on the degrees, so I'm not sure if something should be done about that. Foxjwill 20:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Is it worth mentioning that in practice, these distinctions are largely irrelevant? If you have, say, a bachelor's in computer science, it makes absolutely no difference whether it's a BA, BS, or something else: employers don't care, your peers don't care, and many people might not even know which one it is unless they actually check their diploma. Which people earn is determined almost exclusively by which university they attended; at some, CS is a BA; at others, it's a BS. Which it is has very little correlation to curriculum or anything else besides tradition. --Delirium 08:53, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

The answer is "yes and no". And to complicate matters further it varies heavily between countries. Some Bachelor's degrees have specific titles because in addition to being academic degrees they are (or historically have been) also recognised as a valid qualification in external fields - e.g. a Bachelor of Laws is the standard basic entry requirement to legal training and will have the various legal training bodies verifying the content, ditto the Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery double-degree and possibly also the Bachelor of Music. The Bachelor of Divinity does to an extent but not completely as a lot of universities use the BA title for their degree in Theology instead (and I'm not sure how essential a BD or BA is for ministry anyway). And so forth. Unfortunately recent years have seen a ridiculous proliferation of different names for degrees in other subjects (and it's much worse at Master's level) where in the past the title of BA or BSc would have sufficed.

Even the difference between a Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Science can vary considerably. In countries where subject specialisation takes effect at the start there's virtually no distinction between the two degrees other than a historic determination of which subjects are "arts" and which are "sciences", hence a lot of social science subjects have BA or BSc depending purely on the university in question. (I've even heard of one university where final year Maths students were allowed to pick whether they were awarded a BSc or a BA and there was no difference whatsoever until the actual graduation service.) In countries where subject specialisation doesn't come until some way into the course there may be separate pathways for BA and BSc students. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

5 years for a bachelors degree in england?

source please, the most i've seen is four years one of which is an industrial year. I guess the 5 could be counting repeated years but if so that should be made explicit. Plugwash 21:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Classics and Modern Languages at Oxford is five years: the standard Literae Humaniores course is four, then there is a year in a country where the language is spoken.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 11:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (MB BS, MB ChB, and several variants) degrees normally take five years in Great Britain and Ireland, except for the new four year courses for graduates. When a premedical year (physics, chemistry and biology) was the norm they took six years. The Bachelor of Dental Surgery degree (BDS, BChD, etc), which involved the same premedical year, took one year less: formerly five years. The same was true of the degree in veterinary medicine and surgery (BVM&S). The main page mentions degrees in Architecture (BArch), which take five years in all, though they may be broken up by practical experience and might be turning into MArch. Fine Art courses also take longer, especially if they are in Sculpture. NRPanikker (talk) 14:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Spelling?

So is it supposed to be Bachelors degree now? I thought the possessive apostrophe was still mandatory here. The same question could be asked for the Master[']s degree, I guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.212.6.234 (talk) 12:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Honours vs Pass

The designations of Honours and Pass degrees pertain solely to Commonwealth and former Commonwealth countries, not the United States and it should be corrected. In the US there are single bachelor's degree programs such as a BA in Business and a graduate might be awarded the degree with honors depending on their grade point average at graduation/commencement. There are no separate Honors BA/Pass BA programs. The US doesn't use the UK terms of First, Second and Third class honors in relation to US bachelor's degrees. And the post nominal (Hons) is not used in the US even if the recipient had won the highest honors (Summa Cum Laude). In that case, it would be noted in a CV for example as "BA, Yale University (summa cum laude)". Highdesert (talk) 19:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Why?

Why exactly is the length something was "studied" have more value than how much knowledge the man knows? 199.117.69.8 (talk) 20:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Whould not the implication be that the longer one has to "study" the greater likelihood they have aquired more knowledge? That would presumably apply to a woman as well as a man, incidentally. Even talent, industry and discipline are limited by time, as well as enhanced by an increase in it. Shoreranger (talk) 14:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)