Talk:Baby Shark's Big Show!

The Shorts

So wizzito send me a message on my talk page about the episode list situation, and it has to do with the shorts. Now, I know what your thinking, isn't the shorts supposed to be separated the episodes to have their own section? We do have most Disney shows, like 101 Dalmatian Street, Big City Greens, Amphibia and The Owl House listing the shorts separated from the list, as well as some Nickelodeon shows like It's Pony, Middlemost Post and PAW Patrol. So is this no different? Honestly, this is actually different because the shorts are listed alongside the regular and special episodes on The Futon Critic and Zap2it. Whenever someone would change the list, I would revert the edit since it violates our WP:OTHER policy, and that Wikipedia isn't a reliable source itself. If you have any questions about this situation, you may send a message at the bottom of this text. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 13:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

I think the shorts should be separated as not only are the ratings not available for them, but they also make the episode list confusing. What I mean by confusing is that some "episodes" have the same production codes, and make the list longer than it needs to be. The "S" in front of the codes help differentiate the shorts from the main episodes. As for the shorts being listed alongside regular episodes, Danger Force has the shorts taken from The Futon Critic, and there is no problem with that. BrickMaster02 (talk) 02:14, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Already did that, you removed it for some reason though. TheThomasEnthusiast (talk) 00:57, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

I said to discuss it here, and I was told to discuss that here last year. However, no one commented. We should probably ping @BaldiBasicsFan to elaborate on this further. BrickMaster02 (talk) 01:07, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

If you want the shorts split from the episodes, there needs to be consensus for that. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 03:24, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

I already said my reasoning last year, and I came across this press release mentioning the shorts, along with the airdate of February 26, which was when the shorts started airing. [1] BrickMaster02 (talk) 03:28, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Okay so I guess I now support them split. If you want them back, there needs to be a different line color since I used its line color for the shorts of The Unstoppable Yellow Yeti. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 14:40, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Question: Why aren't some of the episodes combined into their pairs? There aren't actually 52 segments and 34 episodes in S1, the greenlight stated 26 half-hour episodes.

http://thefutoncritic.com/news/2021/02/18/nickelodeon-readies-new-series-baby-sharks-big-show-and-renews-top-hits-from-powerhouse-preschool-portfolio-282004/20210218nickelodeon01/

Those two "998" and "999" episodes are just quarantine specials, and aren't apart of S1. TheThomasEnthusiast (talk) 03:38, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

We go by how they air, not by combining their segments. And as for the specials, it doesn't matter. If it aired during that season, it still counts. Look at Santiago of the Seas, for instance. BrickMaster02 (talk) 04:16, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Okay then, look at PAW Patrol, and at the very least SpongeBob. SpongeBob isn't listed paired but at least it's actually correct. PAW Patrol has aired 11-minute episodes separately, and wow they're paired together. TheThomasEnthusiast (talk) 13:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Rest of the episodes/shorts airing in South Korea

It looks like the new episodes and shorts started to air in South Korea this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GCIHZfG0uE Does anyone know the specific airdates for the EBS channel? OpinChan (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

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Jelly Pox is from Season 1

Jelly Pox is from season 1, and is called part of Season 1 on its NickJr.com page. It was paired with Fish Friends Forever as episode 102b. I wasn’t sure what number to call it since it hasn’t had a television release in the USA (but was aired in 2021 as part of S1 in South Korea), but it doesn’t belong in season 2. What should we do? FunhausFrank (talk) 18:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

While it is true that it was produced as part of Season 1, the episode was released during Season 2. That's how other cartoon articles work (or at least those that are produced/aired first in the U.S.). BrickMaster02 (talk) 18:16, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I see what you mean, but this is a weird situation where a season 1 episode was pulled in the US (like the held-off Kwarantined Krab episode of SpongeBob, which didn’t air until 2022 but is still listed as part of its 12th season on Wikipedia). The episode didn't air in the US, and is still classed as S1 on NickJr.com and Amazon. Plus, the show is co-produced in South Korea where it did air on TV as part of Season 1. We should consider listing it as part of season 1 since it is a season 1 episode, or even reordering the article by packaging order or production order like some other articles. FunhausFrank (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

The difference with that is SpongeBob doesn't have regular production codes listed on sites like The Futon Critic. It doesn't make sense (at least to me) for this show to have it listed in a season that finished months ago. But, I'm not the person that makes final decisions, so I'll ping BaldiBasicsFan to give his thoughts on this. BrickMaster02 (talk) 18:47, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

If this episode was confirmed by a reliable source, it would be added to the episode list, though the episode numbers would be TBA if there isn't an airdate available yet. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 19:59, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

they aren't production codes, they are packaging codes like SpongeBob's. the actual production codes for this show are unknown (at least from my perspective) Xery1234 (talk) 13:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

So should we order by the packaging numbers that Nick uses? That would put Jelly Pox in the season it belongs, and we would just have to say that the list is in the series' packaging order with a source that uses that order. FunhausFrank (talk) 13:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Packaging order is technically the correct way of listing it, and SpongeBob is only listed that way due to proposals made years ago, and it's also the most common way of the show being ordered. SpongeBob is an exception though, and most shows are listed in airdate order, even if in production/packaging order seasons crossover. Xery1234 (talk) 14:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

in conclusion, i personally perfer packaging, but airdate should be used here in order to keep it consistent with how most shows are listed Xery1234 (talk) 14:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)