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Lead

Per WP:LEAD, we should get something from "21st century lyric controversy" in there. "In the 21st century, the song has faced some criticism for the presumed implications of its lyrics." could work. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:16, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Betty Garrett and Red Skelton

Can anyone who's watched Neptune's Daughter, as I just have, explain what is happening in their version of the song? Vzeebjtf (talk) 19:23, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can. Our text reads:

In the film Neptune's Daughter the song is first performed by Ricardo Montalbán and Esther Williams, then by Betty Garrett and Red Skelton but with a comic parody twist: this time the man wants to leave and the woman is the host and wants him to stay.^[1]

This is wrong three ways:

They are at his place, not hers.
He wants her to leave, but she refuses to go; this is not merely a switch of parts in the score, but a different situation
It is not a parody, a comment on the original, but an expression of Jack and Betty's characters (which drive the plot); a twist, but not a spoof.

A correct summary would be:

In the film Neptune's Daughter the song is performed as written by Ricardo Montalbán and Esther Williams, then reprised by Betty Garrett and Red Skelton with a comedic twist: he wants her to leave, but she refuses to go.

Vzeebjtf (talk) 19:31, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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^ "Baby, It's Cold Outside". YouTube. Retrieved December 10, 2018.

Mouse and wolf: Who was who?

In the "Other recordings" section, it would be cool if the table showed which performer did the mouse role and which did the wolf role. I don't have the knowledge to make that change, so it would be great if someone else knew. - 188.182.13.127 (talk) 02:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gee, it's not very difficult to figure it out. The male singer is almost always the wolf. The only remarkable thing would be if someone switched roles for a gender-bending version, as in the film Neptune's Daughter in which Betty Garrett and Red Skelton assume the opposite roles. Binksternet (talk) 02:45, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's those versions that are the reason I'm not doing this myself. Just assuming that the man is the wolf can cause issues, mostly stemming from the gender-bent versions. And I don't fell like going through all the listed versions and figuring out which person did which role, if there is a list somewhere that divides the performers into wolves and mice. Just saying it would be appreciated if someone else did it, either tracking down a list or going through each version. - 188.182.13.127 (talk) 04:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's the one with Lady Gaga. And in the SNL-one they change, sort-of. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Baby, It's Cold Outside". YouTube. Retrieved December 10, 2018.

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