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First in last to leave?

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If they left in 1972, they were not the last to leave, as there were still aussie troops in vietnam in 1973. someone needs to clear this up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.117.97 (talk) 01:16, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The troops remaining after the TEAM's withdrawal were the Embassy Guard in Saigon The first/last to arrive/leave relates to Units not detachments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurencenic (talk • contribs) 07:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rating

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I have completed another assessment of this article and believe that it is a Start class article. It is very close to a B, however, in my opinion. It just lacks for structure. Currently there is a large lead, which I feel could be hived off into a main section. If this could be done, I feel it would be a B class article. — AustralianRupert (talk) 23:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The reference to first/last refers to complete Units, not detachments.Laurencenic (talk) 07:21, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Photo does not appear to be AATTV members

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unless I have missed something, the ex-servicemen that are the subject of your photo are not AATTV. Their berets do not display the Montagnard crossbow insignia and none of the gentlemen seem to have been awarded Vietnam service medals. Have you posted the incorrect picture? My knowlege of the AATTV comes from one of my relations who served in the unit. User: 203.24.19.228

I'm inclined to agree with this anonymous person. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, me too. I believe that those men served with the 4th/19th Prince of Wales Light Horse, based on the black berets and the badges. — AustralianRupert (talk) 09:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unit badge section rewrite

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I have now rewritten part of this section using some recently published material from Terrett & Taubert Preserving Our Proud Heritage (2015) (and a few other sources like Lyles Vietnam ANZACs (2004) and Jobson Looking Forward, Looking Back (2009). The previous material was detailed but it relied in places on primary documents (being private correspondence from the SO Ceremonial and also from the Chief of Army). That said I can see value in what was there previously so I'll post it below in case it can be used in the future:

"In 2013, the Australian Army History Unit (AAHU) undertook a detailed and in-depth investigation, extracting information from Army archives and the memories of former members of the AATTV.[1][unreliable source?] The investigation determined that an AATTV shoulder patch was being worn in Vietnam by AATTV members in 1967, or even as early as late 1966,[1] having been authorised by the Commander Australian Forces Vietnam in 1967, and produced initially for the unit in Japan, and then later locally in Vietnam.[2] A beret of "rifle green" colour and a metal hat badge were issued by AATTV and being worn as early as 1970,[2] or 1971.[1] The beret and badge were authorised for wear only in Vietnam,[3] but this decision was later changed by an Army authorisation allowing the beret and badge to be worn by AATTV members in Australia while posted to the unit.[1]"
"Following the investigation and publication of the details of this history by the Australian Army History Unit in 2013, the Chief of the Australian Army, Lieutenant General David Morrison wrote to Nicholson. Enclosing a copy of the 22-page investigation, Morrison stated in part, "I have reviewed the report provided by the Australian Army History Unit and find that there is sufficient evidence to warrant official recognition of the AATTV Regimental badge", and "As Chief of Army I am proud to acknowledge and recognise our heritage, on this, the Unit's 50th anniversary".[4]"

References

  1. ^ a b c d Staff Officer Ceremonial, Directorate of Personnel Policy – Army (9 July 2012), Correspondence reference DRMS AB9755699 {{citation}}: |author= has generic name (help)
  2. ^ a b Lyles 2004, p. 55.
  3. ^ Guest & McNeill 1992, p. xv.
  4. ^ Morrison, David (20 September 2012), Chief of Army correspondence reference OCA/OUT/2012/R11994006

My edits are here [1]. I am of course happy to discuss these changes if others disagree. Anotherclown (talk) 20:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

G'day, thanks for this, your changes look good to me. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 23:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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