Talk:Attack on Richard Nixon's motorcade

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Attack on Richard Nixon's motorcade/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 19:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Comments

Lead The lead seems to be the only place where the incident's inclusion in Six Crises is referenced. If it's important enough to be in the list, it should be added in the main article body (probably as part of Significance, unless I missed it's mention).

• Done. Kingsif (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Context - Is there a reason that "Nixon, himself, says he was uninterested in taking the trip." is in the present tense?

General comment on layout - Would it be better to have the tour intro as part of the context section, and then make the Venezuela part of the tour start with a level two heading, since the article is about an incident during the Venezuelan section in general?

• Edits made for tense and structure. Kingsif (talk) 15:42, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Attack - In the third paragraph, you use the phrase "follow car". Would "following car" be more appropriate there?

• I think this was intended as a formal term for the car role, but rephrased sentence. Kingsif (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

There's a couple instances of overlinking, Vernon Walters stood out to me, there may be others.

• Reduced this and links to Colombia. Kingsif (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

In the caption of the car with shattered window glass, you suggest where the image may have been taken. A citation for this conjecture should be provided to avoid the impression of OR

• This caption was added recently by another editor, but appeared to me as a disclaimer, so the reader doesn’t assume the photo was taken in the immediate aftermath when this isn’t confirmed either. For the sake of simplicity, I’ve removed that part. Also cleaned up other captions. Kingsif (talk) 16:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

References

• Ref 1 should have a via parameter for newspapers.com, and probably a subscription required parameter as well (this is not one of newspaper.com's free clippings)
• Ref 2 is a deadlink
• Ref 3 needs the via parameter and the subscription required
• Ref 4 same as above
• Ref 8 same as above
• Ref 10 same as above
• Ref 12 needs an accessdate
• Ref 14 takes me to a searchbar, not the applicable page. Also needs the via parameter
• Question on ref 16: At the bottom of the page, it states that the page's content may not reflect the views of the ADST (the publishing organization). Did the ADST still have oversight over this piece, or is there not real editorial oversight of this page?
• The use of YouTube is acceptable in this case, since it is to an official AP newsreel of the incident, it is published by the AP, and the video is the only way this content would be readily accessible.
• Ref 21 is a deadlink
• Ref 24 needs the via parameter and the subscription required parameter
• Ref 27 same as above
• Ref 29 same issue as Ref 14

I removed the external link, as it was already used as a citation.

@Kingsif: Review done, pinging nominator. Hog Farm (talk) 01:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I’ve been stuck on mobile recently but should be able to get to this tomorrow! Kingsif (talk) 21:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

• @Hog Farm: I’ve resolved all issues (inc. refs). Re. ref 16, it is a transcript of an external interview, so no oversight needed, really. Perhaps a better permanent link to the interview would be Library of Congress. Kingsif (talk) 16:48, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Kingsif: All issues properly resolved, promoting to GA-status. Hog Farm (talk) 17:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Neutrality: Communism and post-Pérez Jiménez

This comment might be a little late for the good article review, but since the article has now been assessed, I wanted to leave some thoughts for editors that might want to improve it in the future. I'm worried that there's an undue weight given to the Venezuelan Communist Party's involvement and responsability of the motorcade's attack. Since I started editing the article, I have tried to show other background factors, including dictator Marcos Pérez Jiménez's award of the Legion of Merit, his grant of asylum and his overthrow just months before Nixon's visit. (previous version - current version - diff). I feel there's also a prominent inclusion of the American point of view, including Nixon's and other high ranking officials, but that the Venezuelan perspectives or sources could be improved. This could be resolved including Spanish or sources from Venezuelan, but I understand that the language barrier might be an obstacle.

The public domain in Venezuela includes works that have been published more than 60 years ago, which means additional information could be more easily available. I'm all ears to any way that I can help. Best wishes--Jamez42 (talk) 01:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Jamez42 - I think that is less a neutrality issue than perhaps some due weight. Though, most sources I could find were American, and from high-ranking American reports of it (including Nixon's), they make it sound like a very US topic. If you can find sources relating to it from the Venezuelan side, and the view of it for Venezuela, it would be great if we could incorporate them. Kingsif (talk) 13:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

@Kingsif: My best guess would be that there might be a good find in Google Books. I was able to include more details from Nixon's "Six Crises", but as you may imagine it doesn't help expanding the Venezuelan background. The last book that I saw that mentioned the incident was Historieta de Venezuela: De Macuro a Maduro (ISBN 9781732877702), by Laureano Márquez, but it is a more referential book. I'll provide more sources as soon as I find some. --Jamez42 (talk) 14:18, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

To add to article

Basic information to add to this article: the names of all the people who were in Nixon's limousine at the time of the attack. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:08, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

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• Visita de Richard Nixon a Venezuela, junto a Wolfgang Larrazábal.jpg

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Should Government of Venezuela be 3rd party?

Saying the Government of Venezuela was one of the parties involved makes it seem like they were against all other parties. While reading this is makes it seem that they either helped the motorcade escape or didn't help. I found this video from the event but that did not help Can someone please clarify what the Government of Venezuela 's role was? LuxembourgLover (talk) 21:47, 23 May 2023 (UTC)