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A fact from Atatürk's Residence and Railway Museum appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 June 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the railway management building at Ankara Central Station, which served as a residence and headquarters for Mustafa Kemal Atatürk during the Turkish War of Independence, is now a museum?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Atatürk's Residence and Railway Museum.

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Atatürk's Residence and Railway Museum

... that the railway management building, a museum (pictured) today, at the Ankara Central Station served for Mustafa Kemal as a residence and headquarters during the Turkish War of Independence? Source:"Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Devlet Demiryolları Ankara Gar Kompleksi içinde yer alan, 1892 yılında Bağdat Demiryolunun yapımı sırasında inşa edilen Direksiyon Binası, 27 Aralık 1919 tarihinde Ankara’ya gelişinden itibaren Başkomutanlık Karargâhı ve konutu olarak Atatürk’ün emrine tahsis edilmiştir." (in Turkish) [1]

Reviewed: Marie Hassenpflug

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 8 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems: - y This article really needs a copyedit. Quick examples: leeping / sleeping, ANkara / Ankara, fetures / features. Since the same thing was pointed out at Template:Did you know nominations/Ecem Güzel, I would advise copy-editing articles before submitting to DYK in future.

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - y Hook needs rephrasing but it is interesting. I would suggest: "that the railway management building at Ankara Central Station served as a residence and headquarters for Mustafa Kemal Atatürk during the Turkish War of Independence and is now a museum (pictured)?"

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: - y ~~QPQ at Template:Did you know nominations/Marie Hassenpflug is currently paused. Nominator has made 4 DYKs, but also has Ecem Güzel Template:Did you know nominations/Ecem Güzel in process.~~ [struck out as wrong]
Overall: Mujinga (talk) 20:51, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your review. I corrected the typos as listed by you. Thanks also for your advise on reading before submitting. One overlooks sometime typos in his own text. "Nobody is perfect". I wonder if there is more for copyediting. Please advise. I added ALT1 as your suggestion. I had omitted the surname of Mustafa Kenal in the original hook because he adopted it only after 1934, the enacting of the Surname Law in Turkey. About QPQ: "Nominator has made 4 DYKs, but also has Ecem Güzel in process." I couldn't understand what you mean. What does this DYK-nom to do with "Ecem Güzel" nom? CeeGee 09:00, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the railway management building at Ankara Central Station served as a residence and headquarters for Mustafa Kemal Atatürk during the Turkish War of Independence and is now a museum (pictured)? CeeGee 09:00, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya CeeGee, thanks for reply. Yes I agree nobody is perfect and we can miss a typo or two, but I still feel this could do with a copy edit, for example the times don't fit MOS:TIME and I'm not sure what "arched windows are artless" means. I'd be happy to help with copy-editing future articles but i don't think that's my job here.

Thank you for pointing out the issue with the "artless". I'm gonna fix it. This is due to my poor foreign language English knowledge. Besides, I don't ask you to copyedit at all, but it's helpful to know what is not in order. CeeGee 11:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure so when the article is copyedited and the review goes through then it's good to go Mujinga (talk) 13:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 looks pretty good, I'm fine with the name going back to Mustafa Kemal if you feel it's more accurate, but since he is now known with surname I thought that was more appropriate. Can you add it below the original hook?

I can do it, but it is not necessary. CeeGee 11:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On QPQ, sorry I wasn't clear. Wikipedia:Did_you_know#Eligibility_criteria 5 states "Exception: If, at the time a nomination is promoted to the main page, its nominator has fewer than five DYK credits (whether or not self-nominated) then the nomination is exempt from QPQ" so you can have your first five DYKs without doing a QPQ. So this might qualify as your fifth QPQ or it might be your sixth if Template:Did you know nominations/Ecem Güzel is approved first. Hope that makes sense. Mujinga (talk) 10:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you mean me. I have 206 DYK credits at the moment. I am a little bit confused. I guess I didn't understand you again. CeeGee 11:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wow that's weird! QPQ check gives four notices so I thought you were a newbie to DYK like me, sorry for that!! I'll adjust what I wrote above. Mujinga (talk) 13:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. You could see at least the "The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal" on my talk page. It is possible that "DYK check" reports only for the current year. Anyway, I hope your review is still in progress. CeeGee 17:28, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the review is still in progress, per this: "Sure so when the article is copyedited and the review goes through then it's good to go" Mujinga (talk) 18:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mujinga: Copyediting is now complete. Please check. CeeGee 08:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

article has been copyedited, review has been done so it seems this is good to go for ALT1 Mujinga (talk) 18:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]