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Good articleArmed Boats Squadron Dubrovnik has been listed as one of the Warfare good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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March 12, 2013Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 4, 2011.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Armed Boats Squadron Dubrovnik provided a resupply route to the city of Dubrovnik during its 1991–1992 siege?

A couple of suggestions

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Hello, as per the request at WP:MHA, I have assessed this article as C class. Good work. I have the following suggestions for further improvement:

  • the Libertas convoy is mentioned in passing in the Postwar decorations and heritage section, but the reader is not really provided enough informaiton on what this was, or what the squadron's role in it was. It seems significant, though, so I would suggest adding a paragraph to the Wartime history section;
  • date format inconsistency. For instance, compare "26 January 2013" with "May 22, 2006";
  • English variation inconsistency: sometimes US English (e.g. "defense") is used, but there are also elements of British English (e.g. "kilometres"). Either is fine, but consistency is best. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 21:19, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 07:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do this one. Will get started shortly. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 07:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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7. Overall assessment. Promoted.

Comments

  • It is pretty unlikely that the Sveti Vlaho was the "first naval vessel to fly the Croatian flag in combat" given there were NDH vessels flying what could only be described as the "Croatian flag" in the Black Sea in WWII, see Croatian Naval Legion. Perhaps the most appropriate appellation would be "first naval vessel to fly the flag of the Republic of Croatia in combat". I don't think the current sentence is sustainable.
  • Indeed, fixed per suggestion.
  • "confiscated by the authorities". What authorities are we talking about? Croatian I assume. Pls add.
  • Added.
  • True. I'll see what additional information might be available on organizing and progress of the convoy (and Slavija's return trip evacuating 2,000 refugees) and start the article - hopefully some time soon.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The last para of the lead (and the last section) should be in chronological order.
  • no dablinks, images should have alt text, reflinks all OK, no redirect issues. No action required on these (although I suggest you add alt text to all images, I understand it is not required at GA).
  • Will do, but I'm quite tied up until wednesday morning, so the alt-text will most likely wait till then (a day and a half or so).
  • checklinks shows [1] as dead. Needs addressing, I've regressed the 2b tick due to the dead link/verifiability.
  • The article seems to have vanished, so I replaced it with a similar one, reflecting its contents in the prose there.
  • prose needed some work. These are my edits [2] and [3]. I'll have a last look through after the remaining points are addressed, but it's pretty much there.
  • I took a look at those and found absolutely no problems with your edits.
  • A pleasure to review, a very interesting and unconventional naval unit. I look forward to reviewing more of your work. Final set of prose edits here [4], hope they are all ok. Article promoted, well done. Suggestions for improvements to bring it up to MILHIST A class:
  • alt text for all images (not critical but worth doing for all articles GA and above in my view)
  • a diagram of the general area of Dubrovnik and the harbour showing the approach route used and enemy naval picket lines and land positions, and even the location at which Sveti Vlaho sank. I have to say, the Sagger operator who hit her must have been very skilful, especially if she was underway at the time...
  • a little more information about the siege to provide a bit more context. Was there starvation, epidemics etc? In brief, what was the nature of the fighting associated with the siege? What weapons were used to engage the squadron boats?
  • more information about the types of boats used, such as some makes and models, different types of armament, where were they fitted with the armour and weapons? In Dubrovnik or elsewhere?
  • how did the combat fatalities occur and on what boat (if known)?
  • did the Yugoslav Navy use sea mines or other static countermeasures, and what ships did they use in the blockade and where were they based?
  • convert it to short citations and create a Bibliography section/subsection.

Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 05:48, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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