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Pinging @Nyxaros: Let's please try to find consensus on this issue here, on the talk page. I do not see why Arca's masculine name needs to be mentioned in the article's infobox. I can see however you feel very strongly about including it, could you please give me a rationale? cave (talk) 15:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:DEADNAME, "In the case of transgender and non-binary people, birth names should be included in the lead sentence only when the person was notable under that name. One can introduce the name with either "born" or "formerly". So, as Arca identified as trans in 2018, there is justification in including her birth name. Whether it should be in the infobox, though, I'm not sure of the precedent. I suspect it's better served in either the lede, the early life section, or the personal life section. — Czello21:59, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for joining the discussion! My rationale is that Arca was was never known under the birthname that the pinged user wants to include, she was popular under her stage name, Arca. The ruling to add birthnames to the lede was made in order to avoid confusion, however there is no confusion in this case since people just know her by her stage name, which has stayed consistent thoughout as far as I am aware. I could see a case for wanting to include the birthname somewhere in the article anyway, but not twice in the article like the pinged user wants to, and I definitely don't see a case for including any sort of pre-transition photographs. Doing these things seems to be highlighting a perceived masculine side of her gender identity, which would definitely go against Wikipedia's policy regarding gender. cave (talk) 22:43, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
While I agree she is better known by "Arca", and always has been, if you Google "Alejandro Ghersi" you still see enough results linking the name to Arca; her birthname wasn't exactly a secret, and fans knew it the same way they knew the real name of other performers with stage names. So, she was known by this name pre-transition, even if it wasn't the primary alias, which I think would warrant inclusion. That said, I do agree with you that it only needs to be mentioned once (particularly for an article of this size). Personally, I'd put it under "Early life" -- something like, "Arca, born Alejandro Ghersi, was born in Caracas, Venezuela. Her family moved to Darien, Connecticut, for a while before returning to Venezuela when she was 9 years old..." etc. (except word it better to avoid the repeated use of the word "born"). — Czello22:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The birth name was added back to the infobox by an IP user without any discussion here. I agree with the above consensus, there are some older sources I can find online using her birth name but the majority both before and after are using Arca alone, and everything else in recent years uses Alejandra. I will note there is a long discussion in an RfC about this issue so there is not yet a clear precedent it seems. I'd ask any editors to please give your rationale before adding this back to the infobox. UberKitten (talk) 04:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Currently the years active show "2012–present" but technically her first musical album was "All Clear" under Nuuro, which came out in 2006. It even lists All Clear under the discography page, so should the years active instead show as "2006-present"? I get the name Arca didn't develop until later, but it seems like it's just ignoring the Nuuro era. Hashtagbluejay (talk) 01:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
it seems like the linked site has become a slot game apk hosting site? i'd be better if someone changed or removed it to prevent anything bad happening. 189.38.222.36 (talk) 19:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Done. I removed it. Thank you for bringing to attention to the issue. S0091 (talk) 19:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)