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Sheela na Gig

Sheela na Gig's were for the most part not carved into the side of churches (at least in Ireland). They pre-dated Christian relics and were incorporated into the churches (either because they were on handy large rocks, or because of a conscious desire by Christians to co-opt symbols).

Thailand

This article culd have been written about Thailand, with just a few changes in nomenclature. Pawyilee (talk) 13:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Apotrope/Apotropaism

Agree: Since the apotropaism article sets out to describe magic used for apotropaic purposes, I think it would be appropriate. Lusanaherandraton (talk) 18:57, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Wasn't much to it.—Machine Elf ¹⁷³⁵ 20:32, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scaring evil spirits

Can anyone find an article somewhere that explains why people carved things that would scare people rather than speculating as to what an evil spirit would fear? It seems like most of these gargoyles and things look like evil spirits themselves. I guess maybe spirits would think the place was "taken" already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 15:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

groan

"In ancient Greece, phalli were believed to have apotropaic qualities. [...] [M]any three-dimensional renditions [were] erected." An apposite choice of verb! Dricherby (talk) 12:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mongolian Names?

According to Mongolian Names, some Mongolian children are given names to confound evil spirits. Would something such as this bear a mention on this page? Tha Pyngwyn (talk) 16:33, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Figa Amulet

Seems to be missing. In Brazil it is very common to use one - a closed hand forming a fist where the thumb is inserted between the index and middle fingers - to protect against envy and "evil-eye" but apparently the amulet existed in Roman and Etruscan cultures, as a fertility amulet. As a matter of fact even here in Wikipedia you have a picture of one, the top object displayed has the fist w/ thumb (on the left side) that makes the "figa" which is the portuguese word derived from the italian name for the fist amulet: "Mano Fico"

This article in portuguese expands a bit on the Figa and it's uses on various cultures [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.68.28.215 (talk) 03:13, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Italian "Mano Fico" means literally "fig-hand". In Italian "fica" or "figa" (feminine of "fico" = fig, Latin "ficus / fica") is a circumlocution for the vagina, and this is also the meaning of the fist with thumb (the thumb representing the inserted penis). 194.174.76.21 (talk) 10:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC) Marco Pagliero Berlin[reply]

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Airline emblem

I found the Tu rkish Air tail emblem striking in its resemblance to the documented talisman, to a degree that would make me oppose *removal* of the assertion.But i have tagged it w/ template:dubious , whether as an interim or permanent semi-disclaimer, believing that we need sounder evidence that the company's board, ceo, or president admit that the graphic is at least, say, "a traditional Turkish good luck symbol", i.e. some kind of admission that there's no official story (truth or falsehood is no issue, bcz you can't disprove any reasonably well-constructed official line) that has the effect of disavowing the (IMO-embarassingly-backward) evil-eye storyline.
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Article Structure

Does anyone have a suggestion to improve the structure of the article? The current list of subchapters seems quite random, and any number of objects or rituals could be added. The whole thing seems a bit messy to me. It might make sense to have slightly broader subchapters, maybe according to beliefs or geographical location? Currently only Ancient Egypt is mentioned as a subchapter and the rest is just a random list. LGLou (talk) 10:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ward

Kinda bizarre this page uses the word 12 times and never once in its primary magic(k)al sense as a mark or word embued with protective powers. Ward (magic) redirects here for now since—although apotropaic mark should be the right place—right now it's exclusively focused on medieval European graffiti used as protection against witchcraft, while the idea of protective wards is far more general—certainly in pop culture fantasy and role playing games with magic(k)al elements but even culturally in ideas like painting ash crosses on supplicants during Ash Wednesday and painting arsenic tiger {{lang|zh|王}}s on Chinese children during the Dragon Boat Festival. — LlywelynII 08:21, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

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The result of this discussion was to procede with the merge due to a lack of discussion. Adleid (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Apotropaic mark should be merged to this page. That article is currently a Start-class, and the information overlaps per Wikipedia:REDUNDANT. Adleid (talk) 09:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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