Talk:Apollo 11 goodwill messages

A fact from Apollo 11 goodwill messages appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 November 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a small silicon disc containing goodwill messages from 73 countries was left on the Moon by the Apollo 11 astronauts?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/November.

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I think this belongs in wikisource Victuallers 14:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And that raises the issue of copyright. How many of these statements are actually freely usable? And what about the translations? Evil Monkey - Hello 00:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Never crossed my mind that a head of state would copyright his/her public statements and an US federal agency such as NASA would copyright the translations of such statements in their press release. It's all in Public domain, the NASA press release is available at [1] and the text is also partly available at the New Mexico State University [2]. But of course, any second opinions are welcome.--Termer 04:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can't be serious? Copy rights do not apply in this case, these are statements made into the public record by various government officials performing their duties as heads of state. --Cloveious 04:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the translations were performed by a NASA (or other US government) employee they will be PD. Overall, I think all the messages are not appropriate for a Wikipedia article. As Victuallers said this is why we have Wikisource. Evil Monkey - Hello 19:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Even if the translations were done by the local government employees or in the embassies to the US, it's still PD. Or else is there a reason to believe that NASA has ever outsourced their press releases to private sector who might have commercial interest in any of these public statements? Regarding narrowing the article down and taking the full press release into Wikisource, sure why not. I'd leave the list of countries and the heads of states as a part of the article like the NASA Officials etc. are currently listed and then anybody who wants to see what any of these guys had to say, can pull out the full text from Wikisource. --Termer 20:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just read an article about this topic on Space.com [3], It seems like this could make a bang up featured article someday. --70.72.102.90 (talk) 14:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the line saying it would stay on the Moon for thousands of years.

There's at least a moderate, if not a very strong possibility that we will have a presence on the Moon in several thousand years. While it WOULD last for thousands of years if humans didn't return to the Moon, the Chinese are returning in a few years, as is the United States. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.151.79 (talk) 08:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Absent nations

Hi all,
Someone knows how was built the list of the « Nations Represented by Goodwill Messages on Apollo 11 Disc » ?
Every nation on the earth was contacted ?
Absent nations: Perhaps obvious... USSR; but France ? De Gaulle didn't agree to let a message ?
Thanks in advance.

Alvar☮ ☎ 16:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I recall it reading it from somewhere, requests were sent out to every country in the world...or at least every country that the US had diplomatic relations with. Just that not everybody got back in good time and some responses got back simply too late. Don't know, perhaps France was one of those countries that didn't get their goodwill message together in time. --Termer (talk) 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Termer. Someone gave me the same answer on fr: but he thinks that the US authorities made their requests very late ! A time problem, finally ;D Alvar☮ ☎ 15:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found a source naming the seven countries whose messages were received too late: "Seven more countries sent in goodwill letters to NASA but they arrived too late to be included on the silicon disc. They came from Gabon, in Africa; from Ceylon (Sri Lanka), in Asia; from Finland, West Germany, Poland, and Sweden in Europe; and from Bolivia, in South America." France is not among that but maybe this might be worth adding to the article? Source: Hansen, James R., "Dear Neil Armstrong: Letters to the First Man from All Mankind" (2019). Purdue University Press Book Previews. 37. (https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1036&context=purduepress_previews) Caecilia24 (talk) 16:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apparent copyright violations

The bulk of this article was directly copying the content of the disc, including quotes from former US presidents and many other world leaders. While some works by the US federal government are exempt under US copyright law, this would not be the case for quotes from foreign leaders, for example. The en masse copying of full quotations may be too much to qualify for fair use. I would welcome comments from Wikimedia Foundation's legal team on licensing issues. In the meantime, I have deleted the dubious content. —sroc 💬 17:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have flagged this at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2015 March 20. —sroc 💬 17:34, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting that is ok on Wikisource. Erick Soares3 (talk) 14:44, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Malawi/Mauritius

Seewoosagur Ramgoolam is listed as a signatory for Malawi. But he was Prime Minister of Mauritius. I've tried editing this and it says "Mauritius" in the coding. But as published, it displays Malawi. Are others seeing this too or is it a glitch with my system? PedanticallySpeaking (talk) 16:43, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]