Talk:Antoni Wiwulski

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Lithuanian origins

This repeated removal of the fact that Wiwulski had Lithuanian background, even spoken Lithuanian from his childhood is really ridiculous. This fact is mentioned in books, scientific articles and so on. It would be nice if this removal of presented sources and other actions that seem to be vandalism would stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndPau (talk • contribs) 10:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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A very true analysis [1]. Dr. Dan (talk) 21:34, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Name

Antanas Vivulskis is of Lithuanian (more precisely Samogitian) origin. His father and mother were both Lithuanians and this way he has been raised up as a Lithuanian. The polonized variation of his name is inexact as he used it when he moved away of Lithuania and lived in at the time Polish-occupied Vilnius. Since there aren't a lot historical evidences on his nationality, most of historians describe him as Lithuanian because of his roots, not Pole, because he never had Polish blood and never described him as a Pole. Even there are more written sources of him being Lithuanian than of Pole. Therefore, I insist on conversation of the baseless name Antoni Wiwulski into more reliable and proper, Antanas Vivulskis. 78.61.230.14 (talk) 15:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your opinion. @BladerKubo: Please provide references which confirm that the Lithuanian name is more common that the Polish one. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:58, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This might shed some light on the issue - Marceli Kosman about Rasos Cemetery (published in 1993, Wilno-dawniej i dziś, p. 137): "Pojawiły się więc w centrum zupełnie świeże nagrobki, przy tym tendencja do lituanizacji nazwisk prowadzi niekiedy do paradoksów: 1 tak znakomity rzeźbiarz Antoni Wiwulski przeniesiony ponad trzydzieści lat po śmierci z pierwotnego miejsca otrzymał formę metrykalną, która mu się nigdy nie śniła: Antanas Vivulskis."

(Completely fresh tombs appeared in the center, while a tendency towards lithuanization of names sometimes leads to paradoxical situations. : 1 so, a prominent sculptor Antoni Wiwulski, who was moved from the original location more than thirty years after his death, received a metrical form that he never dreamed of: Antanas Vivulskis).

The current tombstone is a new one (from 1999), a work of Lithuanian artists: Gintaras Šuminas, prof Eduardas Budreika and Leonas Žuklys, and bears the inscription in Polish (contains the Polish version of Wiwulski's name). nr 156. The Polish name doesn't therefore seem baseless. Hedviberit (talk) 06:07, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: "metrical form" in fact means "official spelling", because 'forma metrykalna' is the spelling of the name in the metrical book, a civil registration register. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:44, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It refers to the lithuanized version of Wiwulski's name that was engraved on the tombstone erected in the Rasos Cemetery during the period of the Lithuanian SSR. According to Marceli Kosman, this form was alien to Wiwulski. Hedviberit (talk) 06:08, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Now please be so kind ad move the page "Michal Pius" to "Mykolas Romeris" because of the thombstone. :)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mykolas_R%C3%B6meris#/media/File:Nagrobek_Micha%C5%82a_R%C3%B6mera.jpg 193.219.140.218 (talk) 08:33, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]