Talk:Anti-proverb
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Examples
[edit]Does anybody have any English examples to replace the German ones? I would like examples I can understand because that would vastly help me to understand the concepts. I don't speak German and, not to be a jerk or anything but, I don't think I should have to on the en.wiki. Thanks in advance to any and all intrepid editors who have good examples. - Lambajan 02:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Question about the broad of the definition
[edit]The current article defines "anti-proverbs" as including restated quotations and idioms. I would like to reduce it to only restatements of proverbs. Anybody have ideas about this? Pete unseth (talk) 14:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
"Whatever kills me makes me stronger!" - Peter Griffin, Family Guy, Season 9 Episode 9 "New Kidney in Town" https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=430&t=21281
Drsruli (talk) 07:12, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Merge Discussion
[edit]I notice that it's been tagged and yet there's not actually any discussion about it, either here or on the Perverb page... at any rate, I support a merger under Perverb, seeing as (a) it's clever - not that that makes a tremendous difference - (b) it seems to be the accepted literary term, as established by the Oulipo and the OED (above), and (c) it seems to be the older term, seeing as the oldest citation on the Anti-Proverbs page is to 2002 and the establishing date of "perverb" is before 1977. (I know there's a reference to 1977 for anti-proverbs as well, but the way it's referenced doesn't make it clear that the term was used at that time.) Noaqiyeum (talk) 02:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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This article has no references and looking at the original creation, especially the "taxonomy" of anti-proverbs seems to have been created out of whole cloth. Neither anti-proverb or perverb are in Webster's Third New International Dictionary (Unabridged). One web reference defines perverb very differently: http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-per1.htm . A Google search shows more hits for perverb, but not many references total. Recommend merging perverb and anti-proverb into a brief mention in word play unless someone can put some authority into this or the perverb article. Laguna CA (talk) 16:32, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- The term "perverb" has been used playfully by some, but the general academic world of proverb scholars uses the term "anti-proverb". I find it hard to say "This article has no references". They may not be inline, but there is some serious scholarship cited at the bottom. I'll take the lead to bring this up to a higher standard. In the meantime, I respectfully request that this not be merged into "perverb". Pete unseth (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking lead on this. I see proverb references, and references to Proverbium, but nothing more than a couple apparently ad hoc uses of "anti-proverb". The best I could find was one decade-old article in Proverbium: http://www.deproverbio.com/search.php?searWords=antiproverb&Send=Search -- also, Proverb covers mutated proverbs pretty well, qv. But good luck to you. Laguna CA (talk) 01:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'd say there is just about enough material for one article on this subject, but we certainly don't need two. Anti-proverb seems a better title than Perverb, but whichever is used the resulting article must be properly sourced, which this one isn't. Robofish (talk) 20:46, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Wulst
[edit]Concerning this example given in the article: "Art (Kunst) comes from 'able' (können), not from 'will' (wollen), or we'd better call it wirt (Wulst, fantasy word)"
Wulst is not a fantasy word, c. Wiktionary. Its meaning is 'bulge.'
78.54.97.201 (talk) 20:18, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Too Many Photos
[edit]@Pete unseth: Sorry, I don't think I made it clear in my edit summary what I meant. I didn't remove the images because they were from an "image farm", I was trying to reduce the excessive number of photos (there's way too many photos compared to the length of the article, see WP:NOTGALLERY), and I saw the example farm tag and somehow the phrase "image farm" got produced in my mind somehow. Since the page runs afoul of WP:NOTGALLERY, I removed the blurriest image and the image with the name of a restaurant on it. Since you seem to have been the uploader of both images, what do you think about the image use on this article?
Thanks, Hog Farm (talk) 03:44, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- I had no problem, obviously, with the number of pictures. But with the objection, I will accept the deletion. Merry Christmas!! Pete unseth (talk) 21:26, 23 December 2019 (UTC)