Talk:Anthony Joshua

2012 Olympic Games

His bouts at the 2012 have attracted controversy concerning the results. Some thought his victories to be merited, some didn't. Please provide reliabliable sources which are verifiable for entries relating to this.--Egghead06 (talk) 18:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Undefeated Fighters

Emanuele Leo, Gary Cornish, Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale and Joseph Parker were all previously undefeated (a total of 109 fights between them) before facing Joshua. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.246.169 (talk) 18:51, 26 June 2016 (UTC) Next possible bout may be with Michael Courtney in November

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2016

joe frazier was not olympic champion when he won the heavyweight championship.Frazier won olympics in 1964 , foreman won in 1968 ,frazier won the world title in 1970

2A02:C7D:2D1A:DB00:D1E3:88FD:191D:3B7B (talk) 20:58, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done– Frazier won the NYSAC title in March 1968, which counted as the heavyweight championship at the time. Therefore he was still reigning Olympic champion, and world champion. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:14, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict)  Not done Frazier won the Olympic title in 1964 and Foreman won the Olympic title in October 1968
Frazier beat Buster Mathis for the vacant NYSAC World heavyweight title on 1968-03-04 and retained the title against Manuel Ramos on 1968-06-24, both before Foreman's win.
There are, of course, numerous disputes as to which "world title" is the "real" one, but this supports the statement in the article. - Arjayay (talk) 21:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2016

88.144.151.35 (talk) 23:55, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

I changed his height to 6'5 who changed it back? klitschko clearly states his height in conan as 6'5 and joshua is same height as klitschko if not taller. stop making up heights out of your ass. w.klitschko also written taller than he is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.163.225.77 (talk) 16:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

BoxRec lists Joshua as 6' 6", so it's your task to find something to counter that if you don't agree. And I don't mean anecdotal "evidence" like face-offs—that is making up heights out of your ass. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

the man himself saying it. /watch?v=IZv60Bbutkw?t=14s change both fighters to 6'5

Clearcut WP:PRIMARY. Needs more than just a YouTube interview, let alone one done in jest from a comedy show. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 23:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

lol what a stupid place is this. are you serious right now? wladimir klitschko himself is saying "I am six foot five" and you are denying that and copying his height from a site run by some unknown guy and calling it more reliable? LOL what a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.163.225.77 (talk) 14:34, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Page protection

Fight night today, I have feeling until then, and even a few days after this page is going to be vandalised a lot.. Protection should be placed on this article for a few days. --Mahussain06 (talk) 14:11, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

I asked for that with another boxing article a while ago, and the folks at WP:RPP said that articles could not be pre-emptively protected. It's not the "ethos" of WP, apparently.. which I call bullshit. Is this an encyclopaedia for constructive editing, or a public soapbox for obvious vandals to roam free? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:47, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

That's kind of crap then to be honest. So we have to wait for vandals and then undo many vandal edits before it get's considered for protection?--Mahussain06 (talk) 09:33, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello. Apologies if this isn't the right way for an "edit requests" but I truly don't understand the process, so I took the initiative and used "edit source". Regarding Anthony Joshua's Early life and background. I believe there is an error in which I've been trying to solve. Would appreciate further explanation regarding the process. Thank you. --AfEditor641 (talk) 02:17, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Explain to us what the error in the source is. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:09, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Not necessarily an error but for starters, though a primary souce, news articles have never been deemed certified in accuracy of content. Unless the journalist had an interview with parents(which he didn't), the background story on Telegraph is not wholesomely primary or "fact". In addition, being an avid boxing fan and having watched every Anthony Joshua documentary and fight, I have never seen him mention having "Irish ancestry" though I've heard him numerous times uphold his Nigerian heritage aloft, especially during a Sky Sports interview with Theirry Henry, in regards to cuisine and culture, also after the Takam fight as his father arrived, he said "Here is my dad, straight out of Nigeria". Word from himself, his mother and sister state they're Nigerian and his ethnic name proves so itself; these are just a few examples. Now, If we are to maintain a level of accuracy without any hidden agendas or bias, it would make logical sensible to refrain from stating such information when there has yet to be any concrete form of evidence whether verbally or non-verbally in regards to his alleged "Irish"ancestry. With all due respect, I have made numerous edits on wikipedia and this one seems to be the only edit where it's constantly deleted. Care to explain as I have provided sufficient reasoning. Thank you. (Ps:this is my other account!) BoxingKH18 (talk) 21:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Well then, that's all you needed to do from the start. I have removed it, based on the way they mention it as a sort of 'tidbit' without expanding upon it. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:59, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, sir, for your co-operation. It has come to my attention that somebody has managed to tamper with his ethnicity yet again, even though the page is semi-protected. Can you please remove it again and keep an eye on his personal life section too. Thank you. BoxingKH18 (talk) 11:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

How do you respond to this? From the man himself. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2018

Sporting buddy (talk) 09:54, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Spintendo      10:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

References

Nickname of Anthony AJ Joshua

Anthony, The Mailbox, Joshua. Nickname coined on the Graham Norton show on January 28, 2018. Tom Hanks and AJ were discussing the postbox that belongs to him in Watford, Hertfordshire. Joshua can be quoted as saying "I deliver" as his slogan for his name, Mailbox.

BBC Graham Norton Show Anthony Joshua is nicknamed The Mailbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freethinker1602 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Anthony Joshua vs Alexander Povetkin

It is listed in the pay per view section of his bouts that he faced Povetkin on 31 March 2018 instead of 22 September 2018 Billywhite88 (talk) 18:10, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

I've updated it. --Mahussain06 (talk) 19:00, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2019

Editorloco15 (talk) 19:13, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

I would like to change the nationality of his next opponent Andy Ruiz since he fought in Mexico National Olympiad and represented Mexico at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games qualification tournaments and in his own words he said he feels Mexican and that is the reason he represented his parents nation.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 02:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2019

1.41.89.99 (talk) 09:54, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Change losses to 1

 Already done NiciVampireHeart 21:13, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Why exclude IBO title?

Of recent, a number of boxing articles have been edited and references to IBO title have been deleted from them. Some of them include Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury and Andy Ruiz Jr. Since a few of these are semi-protected, this needs a section in the talk section.

My question is why remove the reference? The boxers mentioned above won the IBO title and even mentioned them among the list of titles they held. If the IBO title is considered minor (which is worth a debate), it can be stated as being so. In fact, the Joshua article mentions regional titles such as British and Commonwealth, but not the IBO title which was included earlier in the article but cunningly deleted thereafter.

Please provide a reason for deleting the references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.200.228.63 (talk) 12:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2020

Anthony Joshua has not called on black people to boycott white businesses.

Citation [206] has transcribed the speech in question and at no point does Anthony Joshua say anything about boycotting white businesses. 86.19.152.74 (talk) 12:37, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Quoting from the given source: "Joshua hit back at criticism after being labeled ‘a racist’ by many on social media for his comments on ‘boycotting their shops’."... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2020

The article states that Josha called on black people to boycott white businesses. This is inaccurate as he never stated "white businesses" he said "their businesses" which in the context of the speech clearly meant the businesses of people who perpetuate racism. This was willfully misinterpreted by people looking to push a false native and themselves perpetuate racial division 82.9.180.7 (talk) 12:07, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done I’ve changed the wording to accurately reflect what the sources say, that it has been “interpreted” as a call for black people to boycott white businesses. – ².O.^Boxing 12:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2020

I would like to add a statement to the third/last paragraph of the opening section of the Anthony Joshua (boxer) Wikipedia Page. The statement I would like to add is 'His knockout-to-win percentage stands at 91%'. This statement is true and I would like to add it to the end of the paragraph, after the sentence - 'His victories include five world heavyweight champions (Charles Martin, Wladimir Klitschko, Joseph Parker, Alexander Povetkin and Andy Ruiz Jr.) plus 3 non-titleists who were nonetheless ranked in the global heavyweight top ten by BoxRec within a year of him beating them (Dillian Whyte, Carlos Takam and Dominic Breazeale).' Arsn8083 (talk) 19:45, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done – ².O.^Boxing 19:52, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Add international viewing figures for unification against Joseph Parker

Figures are available for Klitschko and Ruiz - two defining fights. The Parker fight was equally, if not more, important than the Ruiz fight. Makes sense to add the international figures for that aswell Kaizackjohnson (talk) 05:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2021

The edit is to state that Anthony Joshua lost his title fight to Oleksandr Usyk on 25th of September 2021. Peteroyeti (talk) 23:00, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

 Already done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:06, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2022

Change 'Joshua won the senior ABA Championships in 2010, in only his 18th bout, and later turned down £50,000 to turn professional.' to 'Joshua also won the senior ABA Championships in 2010, in only his 18th bout, and later turned down a £50,000 offer to become a professional. (This edit is one of the microtasks found in this ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T300454)--JunkyardPreacher (talk) 15:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC) JunkyardPreacher (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Terasail^[✉️] 14:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Anthony Joshua is British

He is legally a British national

He has represented Britain several times.

He is mostly described as British from sources.

He said that he is "Proud to be british" [1]

Based on all this, the evidence points towards describing him as British has the strongest case.

@Mac Dreamstate would you like to explain why these facts are incorrect? Erzan (talk) 09:28, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

It's not about those viewpoints being incorrect. What's incorrect was your conduct in not starting this talk page discussion when prompted five times. WP:BRD—this is basic stuff. You also reverted more than three times, which again is poor conduct. Please provide something from a major publication (not Twitter) where Joshua identifies as British over English, and your edits are good to stand. Simple as that. Per WP:BURDEN, that's all you had to do. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 12:40, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Also read the last bit at WP:UKCHANGE: "Re-labelling nationalities on grounds of consistency—making every UK citizen 'British', or converting each of those labelled 'British' into their constituent nationalities—is strongly discouraged. Such imposed uniformity cannot, in any case, be sustained." It's on you to provide sources when asked. Feel free to do that. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 12:47, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

I provided sources. It was erased and I was called a weirdo by yourself which is poor conduct. So I propose it is changed to British. Do you have any objections and can you explain why? Thanks. Erzan (talk) 13:26, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

I've restored your edit with the Sky source. But surely you realise calling Joshua a "she" is weird behaviour—just sayin'. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 13:54, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Nevertheless calling someone a weirdo in their response to an edit is against the rules and doesn't help resolve the dispute. But since we have reached an agreement I won't go any further. Thank you everyone. Erzan (talk) 04:51, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that the words "proud to be British" were part of a quoted tweet and not AJ's words. As far as I remember though most sources seem to refer to him as British, but if there was a quote from the man himself specifically saying it then that would trump everything else. – ².O.^Boxing 14:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2023

I would like to add an amateur boxing tournament result which involves myself:

Under ‘Bocskai Memorial results 2012’

“Defeated Johan Linde (Australia) RSCH-2”

My name should link to my Wikipedia page.

Many thanks! Johan Linde (talk) 03:08, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Liu1126 (talk) 15:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2023

change the Olympic games representing from "England" to "Team GB". England does not compete as a separate team in the Olympics Rodders191 (talk) 16:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 20:54, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Box office attraction

Similar to Mayweather, Pacquiao and De La Hoya's articles, the lead section of this article would benefit from including some stats about huge an attraction (in terms of pay-per-view sales and live attendance figures) Joshua has been in the UK. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)