Talk:Androstenone

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Don't put biased claims up for definitions...I know of many good products that have had spamming issues in the past; it has to do with the affiliate marketing campaign issue.

This has NOTHING to do with the quality of the products, as I use and promote these myself.

Androstenone pheromone smell(s)

"Depending upon who is doing the smelling, it is reported to be an unpleasant, sweaty, urinous smell, a woody smell, or even a pleasant floral smell."

I see these products sold on eBay but they have negative scents? Sorry, but I am extra interested in seeing sources that back up the description. Did I put up too many tags or are they fine? For such a pheromone, which happens to be a product that sellers sell hundreds of on eBay, to have such negative smells is rather astonishing. --24.255.155.100 05:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes you did put too many tags on. One at the end of the sentence will suffice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikipediarules2221 (talk • contribs).

WR2221, I'm looking for a good pheromone that'll help me get liked better by anybody. I looked on Ebay for pheromones and when I saw "Androstenone" on plenty of the results, I decided to look it up here. When I read that the smell from this pheromone was unpleasant to certain people, I felt that something wasn't right, so I needed to ask for sources. --24.255.155.100 05:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

PS: Do you know anything about pheromones, and which ones I should get? (Telling which ones are better than Androstenone would help further Wikipedia in that I or someone else could add them under the "See Also" section.) --24.255.155.100 05:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

For questions about the effectiveness of a supposed product, please ask the reference desk. The goal of an article is to provide comprehensive information without bias and therefore without endorsement. --76.214.201.26 06:24, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Androstenone as a pheromone perfume

Androstenone is growing in popularity applied as a perfume. It is highly effective at having the wearer get sexual attention from women. It inspires lust or disgust depending on the sex, age, sexual orientation, sexual maturity and self-confidence of the person it comes into contact with. It has a smell resembling to urine. Many men who wear androstenone hide its unpleasant smell with a light perfume even though most men can’t smell androstenone. If it is not covered, women may say that the wearer smells ghastly. It may be suggested that androstenone be applied in quantities ranging from 2.5mcg to 7.5mcg depending on the intensity of the desired effect and the type of liquid used to make the pheromone volatile. The quantities may need to be tweaked depending on the “targeted” individual’s reaction to the pheromone. Androstenone gives a strong physical presence, a strong sexual presence, the sexual signal that it is the time to have children and finally, it helps melt away refusal for penetration. Applying much larger doses than may be normally found on highly sexed males may cause fear in some individuals thus making them avoid the wearer of the androstenone perfume. Some males may become jealous towards male’s wearing androstenone because they feel that the wearer is attracting all sexual partners for himself. User:thomaslavoie

If you would like to include a section about its commericial use, please use references. Wikipedia discourages original research and that's probably why that was removed. --76.214.201.26 06:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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Crucial missing info....

As far as I can tell, the best evidence about perception of androstenone is from the following reference, which isn't mentioned anywhere on this site: Genetic variation in a human odorant receptor alters odour perception. Andreas Keller1*, Hanyi Zhuang2*, Qiuyi Chi2, Leslie B. Vosshall1 & Hiroaki Matsunami2,3 Vol 449|27 September 2007| doi:10.1038/nature06162

Here's the abstract:

Human olfactory perception differs enormously between individuals, with large reported perceptual variations in the intensity and pleasantness of a given odour. For instance, androstenone (5a-androst-16-en-3-one), an odorous steroid derived from testosterone, is variously perceived by different individuals as offensive (‘‘sweaty, urinous’’), pleasant (‘‘sweet, floral’’) or odourless1–3. Similar variation in odour perception has been observed for several other odours4–6. The mechanistic basis of variation in odour perception between individuals is unknown. We investigated whether genetic variation in human odorant receptor genes accounts in part for variation in odour perception between individuals7,8. Here we show that a human odorant receptor, OR7D4, is selectively activated in vitro by androstenone and the related odorous steroid androstadienone (androsta-4,16-dien-3-one) and does not respond to a panel of 64 other odours and two solvents.Acommon variant of this receptor (OR7D4 WM) contains two non-synonymous single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs), resulting in two amino acid substitutions (R88W, T133M; hence ‘RT’) that severely impair function in vitro. Human subjects with RT/WMorWM/WMgenotypes as a group were less sensitive to androstenone and androstadienone and found both odours less unpleasant than the RT/RT group. Genotypic variation in OR7D4 accounts for a significant proportion of the valence (pleasantness or unpleasantness) and intensity variance in perception of these steroidal odours. Our results demonstrate the first link between the function of a human odorant receptor in vitro and odour perception. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.38.231.2 (talk) 21:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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Human pheromone detection

I'm not sure what's going on in the previous talk sections; seems like 2000s pseudoscience to me.

Anyway...

Certain human sexual scents are processed in the hypothalamus rather than in the olfactory cortex. The cited source was from 1980 (!) and since then there's been quite a lot of research about this. For instance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK200984/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34266600/

So the statements which I marked in the article could be potentially misleading.

RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 04:15, 10 February 2023 (UTC)