Talk:American Fuzzy Lop (software)

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On 2 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to American fuzzy lop. The result of the discussion was moved to American Fuzzy Lop (software).

Does this article still rely too much on primary sources?

Dear @Widefox: you added a "primary source" template in 2016 (see this edit). Could you be so kind as to follow-up five years later with another review of this page to see if the template you added is still relevant? Thanks Jamplevia (talk) 05:57, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing looks weak still - mainly primaries (CVEs, sourcecode, blogs by the creator - arguably authoritative enough to qualify as WP:RS but still primary). Also, a dead URL [1], and since then another editor has added an "advert" tag which may just be the overuse of primaries without being based on quality secondaries. I believe we give more leeway to open source, so I'd say it's borderline now. But no, I think it could still do with improving. Widefox; talk 21:42, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Jamplevia (talk) 22:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've added secondary sources to many of the statements in this article, and removed the "primary source" template. Feel free to reinstate it if it's still appropriate! siddharthist (talk) 23:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Splinemath: you added an "advert" template in 2019 (see this edit). Could you be so kind as to follow-up two years later another review of this page to see if the template you added is still relevant? Please also see this discussion thread. Thanks Jamplevia (talk) 22:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. Thanks. -Splinemath (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change title

The title is not capitalized and I cant change it. ScienceFan66 (talk) 23:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's not capitalized either on github; I'd say it's probably intentional and the first letter is only capitalized because it's a Noun. Wei gur de 14:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The lowercase thing is a stylization. And if that were the correct capitalization, technical reasons prohibit article titles from beginning with a lowercase letter, so WP:DISPLAYTITLE would have been used. But again, this isn't the case here. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 November 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to American Fuzzy Lop (software). (closed by non-admin page mover) — Material Works 18:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

American fuzzy lop (fuzzer) → American fuzzy lop – WP:SMALLDETAILS. The use of uppercase vs. lowercase, aided by hatnotes, is sufficient to disambiguate between the rabbit breed and the software fuzzer. Both articles have similar pageview numbers, so neither is a primary topic over the other. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose; instead move to American Fuzzy Lop (software) as a proper noun per MOS:NCCAPS / MOS:CAPS / MOS:TM / WP:TITLETM: First of all, this is a proper name, since it is the name of one specific software package, so it should ordinarily be capitalized as "American Fuzzy Lop", and I see that some cited sources do capitalize the phrase. Second, we have no way of knowing that people looking for the breed of rabbit will not use lowercase when looking for it. The uppercase for the breed name may be a Wikipedia convention, but readers cannot be expected to be intimately familiar with Wikipedia capitalization conventions. Moreover, WP:DAB suggests using more general rather than more specific disambiguation terms. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:48, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm not buying the WP:DIFFCAPS argument for this one. 162 etc. (talk) 00:28, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
American Fuzzy Lop (software) is way better. It was capped thus by its author in this original whitepaper (cited in the article). Dicklyon (talk) 01:13, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

American Fuzzy Lop (software) The software name is inherently a proper name. It has nothing to do with rabbits. Invoking MOS:TM would require us to demonstrate that the lowercase predominates. It is hard enough to get search results for the term, let alone to distinguish capitalisation (see search here) American fuzzy lop is already a redirect to the rabbit. Basing disambiguation on capitalisation is rarely a good option. It assumes precognition by readers that the capitalisation creates a distinction - ie they need to be reasonably familiar with both topics to recognise such a distinction. The two topics here are relatively niche and such precognition cannot be reasonably assumed. As a disambiguation term, software is much more recognisable than fuzzer. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.