Talk:Amelanchier stolonifera
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merge with Amelanchier spicata
[edit]The name Amelanchier spicata and Amelanchier stolonifera have both been widely used for the same taxon. It appears that there is some room for dispute that the Amelanchier spicata auct. is the same as Amelanchier spicata (Lam.) K. Koch, which bears the rights to the former name. If it is then Amelanchier stolonifera is a junior synonym. The forthcoming Flora of North America treatment, fide Campbell Lab web site, agrees that it is; I propose that WikiPedia follow this authority.
The room for dispute arises from Lamarck describing a considerably taller plant, via a comparison with other species, than is Amelanchier spicata. (See also discussion at Campbell Lab site.) Lavateraguy (talk) 21:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- I keyed out A. spicata on plants I found growing around here this spring (pictured on that page). And my "trusty" key called SPRING FLORA of MINNESOTA by Thomas Morley puts these plants in "A. spicata complex" there is listed four 'species' in this complex from our area and he places A. spicata (lam.) K. Koch and A. stolonifera Wieg. as the same group of plants in the complex. Plants often hybridize and the lines between species are clouded by introgression. Here A. spicata grows 1-3 meters tall. Hardyplants (talk) 09:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::this site has more sources, note text on the hieght problem at http://biology.umaine.edu/Amelanchier/spi.html Hardyplants (talk) 09:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)