Talk:Ambela campaign

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Did you know... that two Victoria Crosses were awarded for action during the Umbeyla Campaign led by Neville Chamberlain in 1863?

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Need for rewording?

I read "Reinforcements drafted in the local Commander-in-Chief eventually broke through the pass". Should that read "Reinforcements drafted by the local Commander-in-Chief eventually broke through the pass" instead? Otumba (talk) 11:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it should have. Thanks, Woody (talk) 12:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and thank you for the correction. Otumba (talk) 13:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

War result

What is the explanation in the second source @Eastfarthingan for British victory RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 12:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You mean Jalal? to quote 'The Ambala campaign of 1863 was a success for the British in terms of immediate military objectives.' Eastfarthingan (talk) 13:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So what do you think the result of this conflict should be written as for readers then? Inconclusive? Mutual result? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 17:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since the British clearly completed their objectives (yes, it took longer than expected and at high cost) it was not a defeat. Some sources say it was but there is no explanation as to why. Therefore it should stay the same unless a consensus can be made. Eastfarthingan (talk) 17:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the explanation exactly that the British had? Non of the sources provided actually talk about HOW but declare a side to have won, militarily atleast.

Isnt it for us here on Wikipedia then to decide what is to be written? Theres more internet sources. Most of which Ive observed characterise the campaign as a British failure to subdue the tribe. If the British won then that would imply there was a tribal loss, what was it?

I'm more leaned towards Afghan tribal victory than I am British Indian victory. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 18:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's far fetched to say that it was a Tribal victory especially when the British & Indians took the high points and then broke out through the pass. Then as a reuslt forced the Bunerwals and various Khans and leaders to accept peace therefore defeating the 'Fanatics' which was the British objective. I cant see what benefits the tribes got from it, other than siding with the British. Eastfarthingan (talk) 19:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]