Talk:Allen Ratnayake
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The name "Allen Ratnayake" is sometimes mentioned in differently as "Alan Ratnayake". It is obvious that both the forms has been used to recognize the same person. Online citations are rare to find out more information not only about this artist but also the others in his era. But people witness that songs are broadcasting for the name Allen Ratnayake on radio channels in Sri Lanka and his name has been mentioned in some music related discussions. (Lkartlv (talk) 11:10, 4 July 2017 (UTC))
- Lkartlv, you need to establish notability - which means that you need to find some sources that confirm his notability. The sources don't necessarily need to be online. The references provided are merely mentions in passing - which confirm his existence but not notability. Dan arndt (talk) 00:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Dan arndt, I had already done it. But somebody had removed the citations. I am happy for that you accept that the given proof confirms his existence. People normally mention some names in their intellectual discussions publicly as they assume those names are notable to mention. They do not mention names of people just because they exist. The name 'Allen Ratnayake' is mentioned among the other well known artists' names and many songs are broadcasting on radio for this acclaimed singer. Lkartlv (talk) 13:06, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Lkartlv from what I can see the citations that were deleted were not reliable sources. Dan arndt (talk) 13:46, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, the only citations I can see having been removed were the ones I removed. They pointed to a couple of web pages for listening to his music. Anybody can post music online for others to listen to. That doesn't merit an encyclopedia article for them. Largoplazo (talk) 13:57, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Largoplazo, My purpose was not to direct readers out to listen to music regardless their reading. Readers may act on their own wish. My purpose merely was to back and make consensus for the fact that there is known acclaimed musical artist in Sri Lanka named Allen ratnayake. Lkartlv (talk) 14:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- The web is full of music by people who nobody has ever heard of, so showing us that this person has music on the web does nothing to establish that he is a "known acclaimed musical artist". Largoplazo (talk) 14:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- I hereby would like to mention my suggestions in brief.
- 1. The name 'Allen Ratnayake' is referred for a musical artist from Sri Lanka.
- 2. Many soundtracks recorded with his voice can be found online and Radio channels like Sri lanka broadcasting Corporation (SLBC) are broadcasting his songs as categorized as Sinhala Gramophone songs.
- 3. I have given some reliable sources to prove that the information in the article is true and correct.
- 4. One of the given sources has been challenged for its reliability. (Infolanka.com / Miyuru Gee)
- 5. There are three other sources can be found. The source which mentions the words "one of the giants" had originally been published in 2002. It can be verified by checking its date label and the url (http://archives.dailynews.lk/2002/09/09/fea10.html). The publisher is The Associated Newspapers of Ceylon Ltd (Daily News, Sri Lanka). The other source had been published in 1998 by Sunday Times, sri Lanka. The words "one of the giants" are not mentioned within that source (http://www.sundaytimes.lk/980104/plus6.html). The third source is Free Music Archive which is credited as an 'an interactive library of high-quality' on this wikipedia. I ask Largoplazo, do you seriously believe that some one had created those sources to carry some weight for a person active before the Internet? Lkartlv (talk) 15:25, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Why are you asking me whether I believe something I never stated nor implied that I believe? And why are you trying to carry on this same conversation in two places at the same time? The pertinent discussion is at the other page. Largoplazo (talk) 16:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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