Talk:All Time Low/Archive 1

Archive 1

All Time Low are not alternative rock

Alternative rock is Nirvana. Modern alt rock bands are Anarbor, The Dangerous Summer, and Anberlin and they have a distinctive sound. All Time Low is pop punk and pop rock, but definitely not alt rock.

'Rock' band?

All Time Low has always been known as a pop punk band. Alex Gaskarth stated in an interview their new album will have a rock sound but until the album is out, there isn't a source to call them rock. Jkim4007 (talk) 18:38, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

AfD?

How does this meet the Notability requirement for an Article in Wikipedia? Briefly stated, a band needs to meet at least one of these requirements, otherwise the Article should be deleted:

• has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable, e.g., newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, and television documentaries
• has had a charted hit on any national music chart
• has gone on an international or national concert tour
• has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)
• has won a major music award, such as a Grammy
• has won or placed in a major music competition
• has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network

JGHowes 22:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, the first (most recently named one of Alternative Press's bands to watch in 2007 [1]) and the third (see article, many U.S. tours including the Warped Tour) requirements are met. --HarryCane 13:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, OK. I've added the significant Alternative Press "bands to watch in 2007" info. to the lead. JGHowes 20:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

And they've also had a national tour...headlining it, in fact. They're definitely worthy of their own article. 165.235.8.8 (talk) 17:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, what happened to the article about Jack!? Mrs. Barakat

That was a borderline attack article, and besides, the guy really doensn't have much going for him beyond the band itself, so it makes more sense to put relevant information here instead. That article now redirects here. Chubbles 02:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey just wondering why theres not a pictures on here? I cant figure out how to put one, can anyone else? And what about an article on Jack? Sowrongitsjoeeeeee (talk) 00:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for putting the picture up, but what about a new picture. 69.255.115.12 (talk) 23:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Merger Discussion All Time Low's 2nd Record

• Agree The two articles are so short that combining them seems like a good idea JGHowes ^talk - 14:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Dear Maria

Just wondering what their new song "dear maria" counts as. Its only one song long but itunes considers it a CD and it comes with a book. Single or CD?Sheepeh 21:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow we really need to add to this article. There's hardly anything there. --Sophiakorichi (talk) 01:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Mistake

I believe "The Party Scene" was an EP and not an album, and that "Put Up Or Shut Up" was an album and not an EP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazyveggiegurl (talk • contribs) 20:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Nope, The Party Scene is an album, and Put Up or Shut Up is an EP. (Lewi1989 (talk) 17:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC))

Band Members

does anyone else think that there should be articles about the band members? I tried making them before but someone kept deleting them and i don't know why. does anyone else think there should be articles about them?Matt 2601 atl (talk) 11:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I definitely do. They are a band that's recognized enough and at least Alex and Jack deserve their own pages. Zack and Rian tend to stay in the background more and there isn't much to say about them (that I know of), but Alex especially because he writes the songs and well...there's a lot to say about him. Same goes for Jack...just not as much as Alex. 165.235.8.8 (talk) 17:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The reason why is because Wikipedia has criteria on what topics deserve their own article. The guideline involved is Wikipedia:Notability. For music topics, there is a secondary article discussing minimum criteria at WP:BAND. Chances are, the article was deleted because the information was not supported by independent secondary sources. Individual articles for the band members probably shouldn't be created until such an article can meet those criteria. -Verdatum (talk) 01:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Specifically, "Members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases."  JGHowes ^talk 03:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• • I see no one's going to clean up Wiki. You only want to delete the independent articles of smaller, less popular bands. No one's going to do jack shit about the Kele Okereke article or any of his band members because Bloc Party's popular. If you're going to not allow an article on Alex Gaskarth (I agree that the other members don't need their own articles, but Alex deserves one), then don't allow articles for each and every single one of Bloc Party's members. The same goes for other bands, I just don't feel like pointing them all out right now. 12.185.22.200 (talk) 19:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Well there definitely needs to be quite a bit of cleanup around Wiki because I've seen quite a few independent pages for band members that do not meet that criteria. Check Anberlin's members. Really only Stephen has the right to have his independent page. The pages for the other band members should be deleted. Also, all the guys from Bloc Party have their individual pages. Their pages simply give detailed information on their backgrounds and their personal lives along with info on the instruments they play. Those seem to be accepted. If we were to make an individual page for Alex Gaskarth that resembeled the one for Kele Okereke, would it be kept or deleted?

Isn't it Alexx?

i thought the guy's name had two x's.

No, you're wrong. His name is Alexander William Gaskarth. One X. Check their Buzznet page, which they have control of themselves. It's one X.

All Time Low's UK debutt

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This article says that All Time Low made their UK debut at the 2008 Give It A Name festival supporting the Plain White T's. This is incorrect. They did play at the 2008 GIAN fest., as did Plain White T's, but All Time Low's UK debut was back in September 2007 supporting the Plain White T's on their UK tour.

(Lewi1989 (talk) 17:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC))

Hi, Lewi1989! Can you give any documentation to back that up? Maybe a link to a news article? Or even something on ATL's website? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 17:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi SatyrTN. Here's a link: http://www.freewebs.com/alltimelowrock/tourdates.htm Scroll down to the bottom. There's also a piece here that speaks of it briefly: http://www.livedaily.com/news/14252.html

12.185.22.200 (talk) 20:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

General Clean Up and some fixing up

I think that over the next week I am going to try and clean up this article and find more sources for the information. Everything in the article just seems too lumped together. Mygerardromance (talk) 14:56, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm doing this at the moment too. Just some rewording, fixing casing. Some of it doesn't read so well. cheers, Rebecca 210.54.6.17 (talk) 04:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

All time low tours

Do they do a holiday tour every year? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.26.39 (talk) 05:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Weightless not a single

Weightless isn't a single. They're simply showing it to us before the album comes out. I'm gonna see if I can find it, but I distinctly remember Jack (maybe it was Alex, but I'm sure it was Jack) saying that it wasn't a single.

Nope, its the single.... Its the first single off the new album, They released it shortly before starting the Believers Never die part deux tour in order to allow fans to get a taste of the new record, and build up anticipation for the release.

Yes, but that doesn't make it a single. Releasing a song to the public doesn't mean it's a single off the album. I'm gonna try to gather some evidence and present it to Kiac. TanisterATL (talk) 22:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Can we have references for this? I've seen multiple people on either side of the argument, but neither has provided a valid citation. It should be removed until evidence is added from a WP:Reliable source. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 04:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

It is a single. They have a cover and eveything. It's the first single off of Nothing Personal. Check iTunes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sctms5 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

This conversation was in April haha. Before it was confirmed! :) kiac. (talk-contrib) 04:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Clean Up, Correct sources?

Surely the page is due for a clean up now and any poor sources removed now? It's been tagged for ages. Most of the sources seem correct. I'm going to edit and structure the article better. (LostLikeTearsInRain) 07 July 2009

I have been intending to do it! Just haven't gotten around to it! We have semi-protection at the moment so no IP vandals to waste our time! :) k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 06:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I have completed clean up and edit. Added proper sources for charting positions and removed any improper sources. Rearranged some text to reduce introduction and moved relevant text under "History" section. (LostLikeTearsInRain - contribs) 01:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've done a lot of work on it in the last couple of days. Mocked up a neat little photomontage for the infobox (which took ages getting all of the copyright notices done!). Discog is A-okay (thinking about making it its own article). Sources are a lot stronger now, maybe one or two would help, hopefully I come across some interviews or something with the new release having come out. Tours section needs to be merged into the History section, with references. Info on the first EP and album could be extended, but we'll obviously have trouble finding any significant coverage considering they were minimal releases by teenagers. Lead needs fixing up too. Could do with a Musical Style and Influences section and possibly Critical Reception or something, just for a more extensive coverage of the topic at hand. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 12:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit request

{{editsemiprotected}} Alanna Markham is not a member of the band. This needs to be deleted

76.112.239.77 (talk) 06:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done DMacks (talk) 06:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from AllTimeLydia, 22 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} In the introduction on the page for the band "All Time Low" two of the members are introduced incorrectly. It is only a minor error, however the paragraph states "The band consists of vocalist and rhythm guitarist Alexander Gaskarth, lead guitarist and backing vocalist Jack Barakat...". It is true that Barakat is a backing vocalist and Gaskarth is lead vocals. It is not true however that Gaskarth is rhythm guitarist. The paragraph should state "...vocalist and lead guitarist Alexander Gaskarth, rhythm guitarist and backing vocalist Jack Barakat...". This information is correct according to the band's official Myspace music page (http://myspace.com/alltimelow).

AllTimeLydia (talk) 07:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Done -- œ^™ 09:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 24.207.197.79, 8 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} The tours section in this is not longer correct, all time low will no longer be headlining the bamboozle roadshow. they have been banned from all six flags for the duration of this due to an incident in texas.

24.207.197.79 (talk) 00:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tim Pierce (talk) 02:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Missing from the Wiki?

So yeah, there's some important info missing from this...

You don't have Alex and Jack's full names listed.. It should be..

Alex Gaskarth - Malibu Ken Jack Barakat - Lebanese terrorist Aladdin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.216.133 (talk) 15:02, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

"Up All Night"?

This really doesn't sound legit. The citation for this album title leads to an interview where Alex specifically states "I have no idea what to call it", with "it" being the album. Now all of a sudden there's a 12-track listing for this album? If this truly isn't real, whoever came up with this really sucks at being believable. 99.111.185.216 (talk) 04:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Picture

I believe that there has to be a better picture of the band. One where you can see their faces clearly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.54.66.246 (talk) 02:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Dirty Work

Is it time that we add that the new album will be titled "Dirty Work". It is already all over the internet except for here. It is even referred to on this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Work

And further information: http://www.killyourstereo.com/news/7939/all-time-low-announce-forthcoming-album-title/ and http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2010/10/all_time_lows_alex_gaskarth_di.html as tweeted by Alex: http://twitter.com/AlexAllTimeLow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noblebot (talk • contribs) 08:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I hope that is enough for proof.

Noblebot (talk) 07:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Alex said in a recent interview that they've had to push the release date of Dirty Work back to March 2011. Chlowey (talk) 12:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from KatyBabez, 31 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Want to edit spelling on ths article.

KatyBabez (talk) 15:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

 Not done Feel free to post specific requests for spelling fixes or other typos here on the talk-page. DMacks (talk) 16:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Alex, Jack, Rhythm/Lead?

They do state that Jack plays Rhythm and Alex Lead on their Buzznet, but I went to their concert and have seen multiple videos where Jack plays the lead parts and Alex the rhythm. I don't think their roles can be so clearly defined as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.121.161.130 (talk) 07:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.168.177.50, 22 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} All Time Low is not associated with blink-182. At the most, they're associated with Mark Hoppus. Please remove blink-182 off their "Associated Acts" links, because it's incorrect and deceiving. I will not donate to this site when it is full of incorrections.

76.168.177.50 (talk) 16:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the references do not support the links to that band - so I removed them with this edit.

If anyone can add back with appropriate verifiable reliable sources, of course that would be fine.

 Done  Chzz  ►  21:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from KujoKim, 13 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} They will be headlining The Dirty Work Tour with Yellowcard, Hey Monday, and The Summer Set. The Small Package Tour is also over.

KujoKim (talk) 04:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Done Qwyrxian (talk) 09:41, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

"Shirtless" issue

Can someone please change the captions under the pictures, especially the parts where it says Zachary Merrick as shirtless? It's really dumb and pointless, and just fangirl spam. Thanks. 122.60.237.45 (talk) 08:31, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

 Done DMacks (talk) 08:44, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Cool thanks, by the way, there's another one under the 'Tours' section of the article that needs to be removed. I can't do these edits myself because my account was somehow sockpuppeted and i don't have a valid account to make these edits.

Thanks!122.60.237.45 (talk) 22:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Archive 1

MetroStation replaced with Blink 182

Shouldn't ATL's associated acts be changed? They are hardly associated with MetroStation! They are MUCH more associated with Blink...especially since Alex has co-written songs with Mark Hoppus and they both had hands in City (Comma) State. It would only make sense to remove MetroStation as an associated act, add Blink in its place, remove Boys Like Girls (they're hardly associated with them either), and add City (Comma) State in its place. Their association to Fall Out Boy makes sense, as do their associations with New Found Glory and Hey Monday (Rian's dating Cassadee). Metro and BLG need to go and be replaced with Blink & CCS. This is just coming from a hardcore ATL fan. (: 12.238.88.5 (talk) 18:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Blink is stretching it. The bands share no current or former members.Jasper420 00:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

How is Blink stretching it? If they must share current or former members to be "associated" with another band or artist, then ATL shouldn't have any "associated acts". All Time Low has always been Alex, Jack, Rian, and Zack. That has never changed. I still think Metro Station (especially since they're no longer together) and Boys Like Girls should be removed from their "associated acts" area. 12.238.88.5 (talk) 18:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Silver Lock NEEDED!

Okay. This is getting out of control. I'm really tired of these crazy lonely fan girls coming to the article with nothing else better to do than add the word "sexy" before every line. We need vandalism prevention & control immediately! As well as major clean-up and restoration...--Freaky Face Films (talk) 07:29, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

It's been done. The page is protected until April 19th. Friginator (talk) 23:12, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm not sure how long the vandalism raids will last (with their new album coming out in June and mainstream & media exposure at an "All Time High" *pun-intended*), but I'm glad someone caught my request.--98.192.82.68 (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

No need to thank me. Seaphoto nominated the page for protection. But I agree, that was pretty bad as these things go. Because several of the accounts used to vandalize the article were created at the same time, I've opened a sockpuppet investigation. Also, one of the users has already been blocked. So hopefully we'll see less of this. Friginator (talk) 23:30, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Bethanyalltimelow, 1 August 2011

i would like permission to edit the section of paragraphs about the band, all time lows tours. i would like to add their current tour 'gimme summer ya love' tour to the section and their 2012 tour in the uk. thanks. Bethanyalltimelow (talk) 11:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

You will be able to edit the article once you become autoconfirmed. In the meantime, if provide the specific text you want to add along with reliable sources, we would be happy to add it for you. — Bility (talk) 20:41, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 February 2012

Please Change All Time Low to Salt Horse Razor

90.193.253.80 (talk) 22:23, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

 Not done, unless you have a source--Jac16888 ^Talk 22:26, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 February 2012

Mehan16 (talk) 03:18, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

No request made--Jac16888 ^Talk 14:39, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 April 2012

I would just like to add some legitimate information to the All Time Low wikipedia page. I promise I will not vandalize the website.

Mevandenberg13 (talk) 22:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Do you have anything specific in which to propose to be added/modified/deleted? If not, then we cannot help you. --MuZemike 23:20, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

 Not done per MuZemike. Bmusician 12:02, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request

It says in the "So Wrong, It's Right" Section that Dear Maria charted #1 on Pop 100. This is not true, the band has never had a single charted THAT high. The song did however, chart #86 on Hot 100. here's my source http://www.billboard.com/song/all-time-low/dear-maria-count-me-in/15694302#/song/all-time-low/dear-maria-count-me-in/15694302 --68.193.239.116 (talk) 12:36, 11 May 2012 (UTC) Not sure but definitely not #1 Pop 100. The Billboard link says ">>" rather than "Hot 100" and on the band's discography page there isn't a chart position listed. Actually what the #86 was on is unknown. Billboard chart history is here http://www.billboard.com/artist/all-time-low/chart-history/769029#/artist/all-time-low/chart-history/769029?f=794&g=Albums (I noticed that Damned If I Do Ya didn't chart on the Hot 100 as the band's discography Wiki page said). Noreplyhaha (talk) 15:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually i think it was 86 on Pop 100, and the reason why it the chart was unamed is because that chart is discontinued, I'm going to look for a source, but i'm pretty sure. --68.193.238.53 (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

#86 on the defunct Pop 100 is a possibility. If you could find a source, that would be awesome. Noreplyhaha (talk) 04:31, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 July 2012

In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Alex also confirmed that one of the songs on the new record will be titled "So Long Soldier". Source here: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/all-time-low-toast-to-l-a-label-independence-on-new-album-20120626 Fayemily (talk) 11:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Done Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request: 2012 Studio Album

Just announced: The 2012 All Time Low album is set to be released on October 9 and is entitled "Don't Panic," according to absolutepunk.net. Source here: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=2848132. Would it be a good idea to archive this page as well? Much appreciated, BYEFandom (talk) 08:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC).

Genres in the infobox

So why is it that theses additional genres in the infobox "Pop punk pop rock, emo-pop" Get removed? Surely to verify genres and their addition to the article is seems controlling to delete them and not use them in the article. I believe it stems from just not liking it, despite they highlight that the band isn't straight up pop punk and incorporate other elements.

References

Jonjonjohny (talk) 11:06, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

It still says Dirty Work is the latest release

someone needs to change this --24.189.29.198 (talk) 13:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

What is the correct information? DMacks (talk) 13:51, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Don't Panic is the latest release, Dirty Work is the someone before that. Don't Panic has been out for over a year and it's still not updated --24.189.29.198 (talk) 20:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

• one before that --24.189.29.198 (talk) 20:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 June 2013

Please change the current picture to a more recent picture of the band (this year) because it does not show what they are currently like and may give the wrong impression thumbnail CrackASmile2901 (talk) 14:28, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Are you aware of an available, non-copyrighted image that could be used? 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Add Alternative Rock to Genre List

I would like to be able to add alternative rock as one of the genres that all time low does. This has been bothering me for awhile since they are one of the artists on the alt rock page. ALTROCKER ATL-182 (talk) 05:37, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Add Alt Rock as a Genre

I believe Alternative Rock should be one of the genres all time low is as on many music stores ( iTunes, Amazon MP3, etc.) they are Alternative and are on the Wikipedia Alt Rock Artists Page ALTROCKER ATL-182 (talk) 05:44, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

A Love Like War

A Love Like War reached No. 17 on Billboard Hot Rock Songs and No. 15 on Rock Digital Songs, it's doing very well. I think the single deserves it's own page, also it should be mentioned somewhere on their usual page. this is their first single in a while to get alot of media hype. here's my source btw http://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-songs?page=1 --24.189.29.198 (talk) 06:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Emerald Moon

The link to EmeraldMoon redirects to a video game; I'm pretty sure that's not what we're supposed to be linking to in this article. 66.56.30.44 (talk) 03:48, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Good eye! DMacks (talk) 04:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on September 23 2014

It's been far too long since we've had an update. "House Party" is spelled incorrectly at the end of the "Don't Panic" sub-article, and there's no mention of their very first arena shows on the UK, to be held next year.

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2015

Zack Merrick is currently in a relationship with a girl named Jessica-Jo Williams

JessicaUnicorn (talk) 22:05, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 22:19, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2015

The primary photo is 5 years out of date. I found a few images on the web, and would like to see the picture changed to something a little more recent. Examples of more recent photos would be the top image here, the top image here, or images 3 or 5 here. If needed, I'm sure that a related group to the band (management, record label, or the band themselves) would be willing to provide an image for this purpose. It is in their best interest, after all, to help maintain an up to date page on Wikipedia, and help correct erroneous changes. Njwag (talk) 13:57, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

 Not done all those images are clearly copyright - If you wish to contact the band and suggest they upload a copyright free image (which can be used by others for any purpose) I suggest you contact them yourself - Arjayay (talk) 14:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

emo pop?

Is serious? That genre not exist! Biruxx (talk) 19:29, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

We have a whole emo pop article where you can learn all about it. And the statement that this bad is that genre is cited to a reliable source. DMacks (talk) 20:23, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Touring members

Apparently none of All Time Low's touring members are "RSs" and that's why they shouldn't be in the article. But what does "RS" mean ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.60.18.156 (talk) 18:26, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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Picture of All Time Low in 2011

There's a pic of them in the article that says the picture is from 2011. that picture is definitely from 2007 or 2008, alex's hair is much longer there than it was in 2011, and jack's hair was styled better in 2011. can someone confirm this and change its description? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.6.209 (talk) 04:38, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Updates Required (April 2016)

Since this page was last updated, their have been multiple events in the band's career. These can all go under the "Future Hearts to Present" section.

- In the existing paragraph, 'they will be headlining' can be corrected to 'they headlined'
- The band won four awards at the 2015 Alternative Press Music Awards (source - http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/07/apmas_all_time_low_dominate_wi.html)
- A music video for "Runaways" was released on August 25, 2015 and contained footage from the Future Hearts tour (source - http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/watch_all_time_lows_new_runaways_music_video)
- The band also toured in Canada and Asia in support of the album (source for Canada - https://suprtickets.com/blog/all-time-low-announce-future-hearts-tour-dates-for-canada/)
- The band featured in the movie Fan Girl, with Alex Gaskarth performing a cameo acting role (source - http://www.rocksound.tv/news/read/heres-a-trailer-for-that-movie-about-all-time-low)
- They also completed a tour in the autumn of 2015, co-headlining with Sleeping With Sirens, entitled the "Back to the Future Hearts Tour" and supported by One OK Rock and Neck Deep (source - http://www.kerrang.com/33511/time-low-sleeping-sirens-announce-back-future-hearts-tour/)
- This tour was continued in the UK but only by All Time Low, this time with support from Good Charlotte and Against the Current (source - http://www.kerrang.com/35090/time-low-confirm-back-future-hearts-2016-uk-tour/)
- The band are set to release the music video for fourth single "Missing You" on April 5, 2016. (source - http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/watch_a_preview_for_all_time_lows_new_video)

I understand that perhaps not all of this can be included without more concrete sources, but with the page being frequented so often, especially with the band's rapidly rising popularity, it should definitely be more up to date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.88.32 (talk) 21:14, April 4, 2016

 Partly doneThe list here appears very scattered and is very difficult to incorporate everything requested here. Some of the points appear more to be just little pieces of news that is not easy to transcribe into paragraph form. I've incorporated some of the awards, touring, and music video suggestions.  — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 04:01, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2016

I was going to add to the bottom of the page's main article: On July 6th 2016 they announced the long awaited sequel to their live cd/dvd, titled "Straight to DVD II" due for release August 26th, through Hopeless.

Oh and here's the source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BHkZMmSgxSh/?taken-by=alltimelow Bring me the Oli (talk) 10:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done. In my opinion, this doesn't meet general notability guidelines for the subject's article. Also Instagram is not what is considered a reliable source. Cabasco Bay 23:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Rhythm/Lead guitar?

I don't think it's correct to say that Jack plays the lead guitar and Alex plays the rhythm guitar, expecially in the live performances where it's pretty clear that Alex plays the solos and Jack plays the rhythm part. The "lead" part Jack plays during choruses and verses are just harmonies, not lead parts, so I think that part must be changed. These harmonies are not even always played by Jack live, but they are often played by the backing guitarist. Alex in an interview for Alternative Press stated that he records the majority of the guitar parts (including often the harmonic parts) just to save time in the recording process because he writes the songs. I think they should be both credited as "guitars" and not "lead guitar" and "rhythm guitar". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.57.132.106 (talk) 09:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC) It's been almost 8 months. Thanks for (not) answering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.50.170.22 (talk) 12:53, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2017

Can I add a link on Jack Barakat's name when my page has been reviewed? Gullwolf (talk) 09:11, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

 Not done - your page has not just been refused, it has been totally blanked - Arjayay (talk) 12:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

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