Talk:All I Ask/GA3

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 21:08, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Remove the release format as it can only be purchased along with the album
Torch is not a music genre

Done

Lead

the pop and torch song → the pop song (see on infobox)

Removed the "and" so it reads "pop torch song".

If you are going to mention the US peak you should also mention the French and Australia
Adele performed it during Adele Live in New York City, The Late Late Show with James Corden, The Ellen DeGeneres Show and at the 58th Annual Grammy Awards → don't mention every performance and add dates
You could add something else from the "Background and composition" section here

Anything particular?

Maybe the disagreament regarding the line "lovers" or that Adele as "fun" working on the song. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Background and composition

Aiming to create a "big, diva, ballad", Bruno Mars and Adele began conducting sessions for her third studio album, 25 (2015) → this is not true, they first wanted to create an "uptempo" song See here

Added. It used to be here initially but accidentally got removed during my rewrite.

Adele Adkins → Adkins
Adele has stated that her vocals on "All I Ask" are her most "showoff-y", adding that Mars hit all the notes in the studio too. → very bias the first instance because its her saying it about hersef and the second portion because she worked with him she will praise who she works with

I don't see what's biased about this statement? Can you suggest another way to phrase it.

I wish I could, its bias as it is Adele stating that, if it was a music review or a critic or anyone else that hasn't worked directly on the song, it would be fine. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:49, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More on Overall section. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:57, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

look[s] forward to singing that part. It's fucking perfect → the source says "Sometimes I play it on the piano, and I look forward to singing that part. It’s fucking perfect.", which is quite diferent. Neverthless replace it with "It's this grand word that makes the song bigger because no one says it. Because nobody talks like that, it pops out."

The original statement was in the source too. But revised.

"knocked the whole thing out in just two sessions" → should also be on the article, that they finished the song in two sessions
Mars has stated that Adele is "incredible", has "got some pipes on her and [is] just a superstar", → same as previous

Do you mean this is 'biased' too? Suggest another way to state this please.

Yes I mean that is bias, once more it is one of the producers saying that, if it was a music review or a critic or anyone else that hasn't worked directly on the song, it would be fine. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:49, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inspired by singer-songwriter → Inspired by American singer-songwriter
stripped instrumentation of only piano → features only piano in its instrumentation
and has been described as different from "the rest of modern pop". → what strikes you is how different her songs sound from the rest of modern pop. (not exacly the same)

Tried to write this more objectively. Feel free to go ahead and remove that bit if it still isn't suitable.

Not suitable still. Moreover, he is commenting on a concert.

It sees the singer → songs can't see, nor lyrics
The sample "and sets Adele gusting over the octaves." → not on any source
Pearhaps divide in two diferent setions as it will become bigger after the changes below.
What is "Multiple image" with nothing on it?

Done

Critical reception

music critics → link to music journalism
Source fifteen and sixteen are the same jsut by diferent publications, keep the original one, which is mic
Neil McCormick of The Telegraph described "All I Ask" as a "deep, resonant piano ballad" → this is compostion
On MTV add "This song is so emotional..." → its key here
Most of the first paragraph is compostion, including Sterogum and so on as
Add this source [1]

Done

Chart performance

debuted and peaked → debuted at its peak
Charts respectively → Charts, respectively
In January 2016 the song entered → any particular reason? and source for it as well
four sources in a row make the text very clunky
On Canadian Digital Songs, "All I Ask" managed to reach number 34 → when?
The song was successful → remove (it didn't even enter the main chart)
It had similar success → same as previous

Done

Live performances

Re-title "Live performances and covers"
Adele performed the song → Adele first performed the song
Adele also performed the song on The Late Late Show with James Corden during the "Carpool Karaoke" segment. → During The Late Late Show with James Corden on (add date) Adele included "All I Ask" on the popular segment Carpool Karaoke.
A month later...15 February 2016 → twice the dates?
some criticism → if it is some needs more than one source (three is the maximum)
It was performed on selected dates of her Adele Live 2016 tour. → needs other source, this to general and the article doesn't address this issue

The second source you added as the video taken not from Adele's Youtube channel, copyright violation on Youtube and can't be here. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:32, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is important "Fortunately for the singer, she’s been able to “redeem” herself in the eyes of the public" click
Add to the third paragraph "Bruno Mars and his band, The Hooligans, covered the song during the BBC Radio 1 Live Lounge on 2 November 2016"
Merge the first and second paragraph into one

All done, I think. Decided to remove the criticism bit altogether, since sources seem to have been positive of the performance despite the technical issues.

Good choice. Left you a comment MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:32, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Credits and personnel

Recorded at Glenwood Recording Studios, Los Angeles, United States → Recorded at Glenwood Recording Studios, Burbank, California
United States → remove
Mastering?

Done

Charts

The billboard digita links are all broken, find and archive them

Done for Canada. But it doesn't seem like Billboard keeps archives for Sweden and Netherlands, nothing on web.archive.org either. Don't know what is to be done here.

If its not to be seen, try archive.is and webcitation.org to look for them, if you can't find it then they need to be removed. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:51, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Certifications and sales

Fine

References

Prettymuchamazing is a music blog
Stuff.co.nz. → Stuff (website)
Wikilink The New York Times, Vanity Fair
Reference 43 "NO SHOUT"
Fix reference 51
Boston glob requires subscription to see the entire article, should be added
BBC source lacks date and accessdate + publisher

Done

External links

Fine

Overall

Add the National Post source as well.

Couldn't find an article about this song from the National Post?

Above on the talk page, ref ideas, it has Charles Moniz commenting on it, about a broken glass. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

You can now address the issues, let me know when you are done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly done. Left some comments asking for help rephrasing some things.--N Ø 06:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I believe everything has been done. Feel free to go through it.--N Ø 14:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MaranoFan: It doesn't have the spanish entry on the source. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, apparently it used to appear at number 46 on the issue dated 2015-11-29, but the chart has been changed to no longer show AIA now. I’ve currently retained the chart entry with an archive but I’ll let you make the final call.—N Ø 17:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding said chart, it doesn't appear anymore becaause that was the peak on the Spanish Digital Singles and not Spanish chart. Select year:2015 and week 44,[2], and you will see that "All I Ask" is not there, so it also needs to be removed from here. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:21, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just one thing to go and we are done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:21, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An editor added a bunch of pictures I kept one, are you ok with it? I honestly don't care that much. On top of that, I made several changes to the article, see if you are also ok with those? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know hot to fix such error. I made changes to it, take a look. If you are ok, it's done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:57, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm okay with the changes, thanks for a comprehensive review.—N Ø 22:00, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You welcome, I had fun. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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