Talk:Alice Wong

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Chronology and references for Alice Wong

Article

1948
June 30, born

1980
Immigrated to Canada from Hong Kong

1982
Married husband Enoch.

1993
Received PhD in curriculum and instruction from the University of British Columbia.

2008
First elected, Richmond, British Columbia

November, appointed Parliamentary Secretary for Multiculturalism.

2011
Reelected
Minister of State for Seniors

Disambiguating Alice Wong

There are now two Alice Wongs, the Canadian MP (this one) and an American disability activist This page should be moved to Alice Wong (politician) and a disambiguation page created. Nasukaren (talk) 04:43, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:TWODABS. The new emergence of one other person with the same name does not automatically force the move of a preexisting article to a disambiguated title, or the creation of a disambiguation page — that approach can become appropriate in certain circumstances, but is not an automatic result of every new creation of an article about a second person with the same name. Bearcat (talk) 17:31, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 March 2016

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 5 7 17:12, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alice Wong → Alice Wong (politician) – There are two Alice Wongs, a Canadian politician and an American disability activist. The disability activist Wong currently has higher googlefu with the first page of hits almost entirely to her. The two Alice Wongs should be disambiguated with a single disambiguation page. Nasukaren (talk) 15:00, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now. The Canadian Alice Wong is a former cabinet minister and current opposition front bencher. I'd need to see more concrete evidence that the disability activist comes close for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in terms of long term significance or usage. (And my Google results don't tally with yours; more of the top hits I got were for the politician; maybe a locale issue?) — Amakuru (talk) 10:11, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Google searching is geolocated — you may get more hits for the disability activist more prominently, but I get hits for the politician first and foremost and have to go to page 3 of a Google search before I get even the first hit for the disability activist (and even that one's her own primary source profile on the website of her own organization). And as I noted above, we don't automatically move a preexisting article to a disambiguated title, or convert the plain title to a dab page instead, the moment one new person of the same name comes along — if there were three or five or ten other Alice Wongs with articles, then moving the existing article might become more appropriate, but with just one other Alice Wong we have the option of just using a WP:HATNOTE instead. In situations like this, we review the people's respective claims to being primary topic for their name — while certainly things may change in the future, at the present time I see no compelling or strongly sourced reason why the Canadian politician wouldn't still be primary topic as of today, because she's been notable for a lot longer and I'm not seeing the "disability activist gets more Google hits" that you claim you're seeing. (And even if there were three or five or ten other notable Alice Wongs with articles to dab, that still wouldn't automatically rule out the possibility that the politician was still the primary topic and the dab page would have to go to Alice Wong (disambiguation) instead of the plain title — we would have to evaluate the situation to determine who did or didn't qualify for primary topic status if and when that time comes.) Bearcat (talk) 17:42, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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