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Predecessor

The 8C Competizione's predecessor is listed as the Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale. Wouldn't the Alfa Romeo Montreal be a more natural predecessor than the 33? After all, the Montreal came later and is very similar to the 8C Competizione, both marketing wise and in form factor. Just wants to air this before jumping in to make a change. TorW (talk) 12:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure but I think stradale is more closer to 8c, 2 seat? vs 2+2 and more "supercar"?, Italian wiki seems to have Alfa Romeo SZ--— Typ932^{T | C} 13:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, they sure do. The SZ is in my opinion an even stranger predecessor, but I guess it all boils down to what the definition of predecessor in a model setting is. In the model template the SZ/RZ is listed as predecessor to the 8C, then Montreal and then 33 Stradale. It sorta makes sense, so in order to keep things tidy, I vote for putting the SZ/RZ as 8C predecessor in the english wikipedia too. Comments? TorW (talk) 21:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

yep thats maybe best option--— Typ932^{T | C} 22:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

8C in Australia

who knows when the 8C is comming out in Australia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.32.141 (talk) 11:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poor performance?

Should any mention of the car's real world poor performance? It has good looking numbers on paper, but in many real world tests the car has performed with absolutely astonishing terribleness (I don't even think that last one is a word). The easiest to cite is the Top Gear review, but a few other publications have noted that despite the good weight distribution and powerful engine, the suspension causes the car to suffer seriously in bends. Again with the Top Gear: a Honda Civic went around the Top Gear Test Track quicker than the 8C. Surely, this kind of lackluster performance should be mentioned? Scryer_360 (talk) 03:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The top gear track was so wet that it have never been, try to find better sources, it performed very well in road and track magazine and got very good review. Best brakes , better g value than Audi R8 and so on, of course you can also add top gear, but there shold be mentioned the very wet track--— Typ932^{T | C} 06:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sold out?

I visited the Minneapolis, MN USA Maserati dealer this past weekend (May 30, 2009) and they had one for sale, claiming that it was one of 2 that is for sale in the US, new. Therefore, the section that claims it is "sold out" is incorrect, yes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.235.186 (talk) 04:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All the 8Cs were pre-ordered by customers long before production was finished, so the "new" cars must either be customer's who jumped ship for some reason or cars that were immediately re-sold. In short: at the time of the US introduction, all US-destined cars were spoken for. The cars in question could also be from the slightly mystical "Other" market. Who knows. There have been two 8Cs in circulation in Norway, both with Norwegian flags on the centre console and production number, but Alfa Romeo didn't make any cars specifically for Norway. TorW (talk) 11:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Engine

Anyone capable of finding source for the engine is it direct injection or not? --— Typ932^{T | C} 07:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not direct injection. And it's not dry-sump, it's wet sump, what Road & Track says is wrong. There is no external oil reservoir, the dipstick goes into the engine oil sump, and the oil filler cap is on one of the heads. Even the oil capacity Road & Track cites is wrong: the correct oil capacity is 9 liters, not 10.5. I know this because I have an 8C. 80.116.131.211 (talk) 13:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.maserati.com/maserati/en/en/index/models/GranTurismo-S/tecnology.html

maserati 4.7 are wet sump engines, don't know about the ferrari use YBSOne (talk) 19:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ferrari units from the F136 family (of which the 8C engine is a part of) all have dry sump lubrication, with the exception of the Ferrari California's F136IB, which is wet sump. --Aprovera (talk) 08:32, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cross plane engine

The article states that the 8C "features a Ferrari/Maserati derived 90 degree cross-plane dry-sump lubricated 4.7-litre V8 assembled by Ferrari". However, the referenced article has no mention of whether it is cross plane or flat plane.

This basic engine is used in Maseratis and Ferraris with a flat plane crank and the exhaust note sounds like a flat plane. Can anyone confirm or deny this tidbit of info? 20:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.132.201.178 (talk)

I think only Ferrari uses flat plane , I have added reference --Typ932 ^T·C 21:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Production numbers and markets

Confusion about the meaning of the table in "Production Numbers and Markets" is evidently creeping in. Unless Alfa Romeo earmarked cars for e.g. Croatia and Latvia before production started, they should not have separate entries in the table. The table is not meant to be a list of countries where an 8C can be found, but a list of markets for which Alfa Romeo explicitly and originally set aside vehicles. Other uses would need too much maintenance and be wrong in a historical context. Anyone have sources for Alfa earmarking vehicles for New Zealand, Latvia, Taiwan, Russia, Singapore and Croatia? If not, they belong under "Other". TorW (talk) 19:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep I think the table should be restored its original state...should find the original source though... --Typ932 ^T·C 19:12, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the table keeps changing into a stats table for spotted 8Cs. I'm reverting the table back to the original market distribution of cars, i.e. the numbers stated by Alfa Romeo in 2007. The various autoblogs and magazines tend to come here to find information, so using them as reference for poduction numbers are at best dubious. TorW (talk) 12:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation in Italian

We need the pronunciation of "8c" in Italian, per wiki phonetics.-The Gnome (talk) 10:08, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ferrari California

L'Alfa Romeo 8C e la Ferrari California non possiedono lo stesso telaio in comune, sono telai differenti. --Corvettec6r (talk) 16:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

disco volante

I was wondering if the disco volante should have a separate page.Michaeljuan (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

4C relation

Alfa 8C Competizione is not a predecessor to he 4C, directly nor indirectly. 8C is a V8 front engined, 2 seater, gran turismo, limited production. 4C is a carbon-tub, mid engined, 4 cyl, 2 seater sports car, mass produced. No reltion. And 'indirectly' every car is related to every other car. Please don't change it again. YBSOne (talk) 12:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

statements as: spiritual successor or 4c is half an 8c are not facts but misguided opinionsYBSOne (talk) 19:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm awaiting an official Alfa Romeo statement to the matter of Alfa 4C to 8C Competizione relation YBSOne (talk) 11:28, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yet again. This time reply from Alfa Romeo: http://www.bozhdynsky.com/4c8c-unrelated/ They are not related. Not directly, not indirectly, not spiritually. let it go already. YBSOne (talk) 22:02, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please read this link to the official Alfa Romeo 4C Coupe & Spider Brochure before the editing. Thank you. 2602:306:831d:cb10:c558:81f6:8ddb:ba3b (talk) 22:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC) P.S.: The reason why because it also referenced the 8C Competizione. Link is unreadable and this material was already disprovenYBSOne (talk) 16:29, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Which brochure are you reading? The one I download is on the 5th page saying something different that what you have.2602:306:831d:cb10:c558:81f6:8ddb:ba3b (talk) 22:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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