Talk:Alcázar of Toledo

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The building itself

Is there someone familiar with Architecture that can add to this article? This article consists of only 2 sentences about the building itself and 5 paragraphs about one instance that occurred in at the site. Seems to be a bit imbalanced.

Nationalist re-direct

The link in the second paragraph from the displayed word 'nationalist' to the entry on 'Francoist' is automatically re-directed to the article about Franco himself. I don't think that is good form.

Moscardo's hoax

I've deleted this parragraph: <<The Republicans kidnapped Moscardó's son, Luis, and demanded that the Alcázar be surrendered or they would kill his son. Luis told his father "Surrender or they will shoot me," his father replied "then commend your soul to God, shout 'Viva Espana' and die like a hero."[1] Moscardó refused to surrender, and the Republicans executed his son.>>

Many Historians have shown this story is a hoax. That story never took place, and Moscardo's son wasn't executed. Last time in Anthony Beevor's "Spain Civil War". --85.48.71.255 00:47, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reinserted the removed text. While controversial, the tale is important. It should be discussed even if whole fabricated. While I found some sources that say the tale has been embelished, I haven't found any saying its completely myth. In fact, everything I've seen says that Luis Moscardo was executed (although a month after the threat not immediately). Please cite sources that argue its a myth. I'll see if I can find Beevor's work. Does it actually say Luis wasn't executed?--Bkwillwm 23:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I correct myself. Moscardo's son was executed but a month after that conversation (I haven't seen yet a direct source this talk took place ot not ). Then again, if the truthfulness of the story is debatable, I'm not sure Wikipedia should quote such a dialogue "as is" but, maybe as Moscardó's answer was telling his son to cry "Viva España" and to die like a hero. Anyway, any further development should lead to its own Wiki-article about Siege of the Alcázar --85.48.71.176 01:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This story os true, it's a historical fact, it has never proved to be a hoax. Mitsos 19:10, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A book I am currently reading about the Spanish Civil War cites Cecil Eby's "The Siege of the Alcazar" (New York, 1965) and recounts the conversation. 65.111.95.98 (talk) 18:38, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]