Talk:Alaric (name)

On 1 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved to Alaric. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Requested move 25 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved — JFG ^talk 21:50, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alaric (name) → Alaric – The name is clearly the primary topic. Since there is only one non-name entry on the dab (HMS Alaric (P441)), this could be handled by a See also entry. If more non-name meanings were to arise, then a dab could be created at Alaric (disambiguation). Nick Number (talk) 14:47, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The article on the name "Alaric" isn't WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over other articles named Alaric, even just people called only Alaric such as Alaric I, Alaric II, and this other Alaric. It receives only a small fraction of the total page views; if anything Alaric I is the primary topic.[1]-Cúchullain ^t/c 17:27, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Cuchallain. The current setup seeems fine, and they are all contenders for "Alaric" so belong on this dab page, not on a see also page. — Amakuru (talk) 20:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 1 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Vpab15 (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alaric (name) → Alaric
Alaric → Alaric (disambiguation)

– Only one entry on Alaric is not a given name, and the sub can be moved to a hatnote. The rest are entries also listed in the name page. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:28, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Alaric titles a page with significant content and so is ineligible as a new page title unless it is also proposed to be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 23:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment / Oppose - this was already proposed via an RM in 2016 (see above), and as far as I can tell the reasoning of Cuchullain at the time still holds. The name isn't primary topic over other entries. At least this needs a discussion, not an uncontroversial move. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Having what amounts to two dab pages is unnecessary. Srnec (talk) 16:33, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose, I think for people just searching the term "Alaric" this makes the most sense.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:53, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The name is clearly the primary topic as the disambiguation page only lists one entry which is not a people or an individual person. JIP | Talk 18:16, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm not sure if there is a primary topic for "Alaric", but if so, I'd imagine it would be due to the long-term significance of Alaric I. Egsan Bacon (talk) 18:49, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The proposal makes sense if you view name articles as just lists of people, in which case Alaric (name) could easily double as a disambiguation page. However, names are also potential encyclopedic topics of their own, and this article has a fair amount of content that gets in the way of it serving well as a disambiguation page. Also, the most sought after link form the current dab page (according to the clickstream dataset for March) is – unsurprisingly – Alaric I, with 70% of all outgoing link referrals. – Uanfala (talk) 14:29, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Conventionally people known by a mononym are listed on a disambiguation page even if there is a name page, and whilst there's nothing wrong with the nom's proposal, there's also nothing wrong with the status quo. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.