Talk:Alano Español

This article was nominated for deletion on 6 August 2019. The result of the discussion was keep.

Dogs Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Dogs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Canidae and commonly referred to as "dogs" and of which the domestic dog is but one of its many members, on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DogsWikipedia:WikiProject DogsTemplate:WikiProject DogsDogs articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Dogs To-do:

Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Dogs:

Recent changes patrol: members can review the recent changes list to be aware of improvements or vandalism.
Expand and improve citations: Akita (dog), American Bully, Artois Hound, Azawakh, Barbet (dog), Basset Fauve de Bretagne, Bavarian Mountain Hound, Bearded Collie, Beauceron, Berger Picard, Black and Tan Terrier, Black Norwegian Elkhound, Border Collie, Border Terrier, Bouvier des Ardennes, Bouvier des Flandres, Braque du Bourbonnais, Brazilian Terrier, Briquet Griffon Vendéen, Brittany (dog), Bullenbeisser, Bull Terrier, Ca de Bou, Cairn Terrier, Cardigan Welsh Corgi, Campeiro Bulldog, Central Asian Shepherd Dog, Chilean Terrier, Chow Chow, Colombian Fino Hound, Corsican Dog, Cretan Hound, Croatian Sheepdog, Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, Danish Spitz, Dingo, Dobermann, Dogue Brasileiro, Dunker, East Siberian Laika, English Cocker Spaniel, English Foxhound, English Toy Terrier (Black & Tan), Erbi Txakur, Estonian Hound, Estrela Mountain Dog, Finnish Lapphund, Flat-coated Retriever, French Bulldog, Galgo Español, Gaucho sheepdog, German Hound, German Shepherd, German Wirehaired Pointer, Glen of Imaal Terrier, Gordon Setter, Great Dane, Greek Harehound, Griffon Bruxellois, Guatemalan Dogo, Gull Dong, Halden Hound, Hamiltonstövare, Hanover Hound, Havanese dog, Hokkaido (dog), Hovawart, Ibizan Hound, Icelandic Sheepdog, Indian Spitz, Irish Setter, Irish Terrier, Irish Water Spaniel, Istrian Coarse-haired Hound, Jagdterrier, Jämthund, Kai Ken, Karakachan dog, Karelian Bear Dog, Karst Shepherd, Keeshond, Kokoni, Kooikerhondje, Koolie, Kuchi dog, Kuvasz, Labrador Retriever, Large Münsterländer, Lucas Terrier, Magyar Agár, Miniature Bull Terrier, Miniature Fox Terrier, Mongrel, Mountain Cur, Northern Inuit Dog, Norwegian Elkhound, Norwich Terrier, Old Danish Pointer, Old English Bulldog, Old English Sheepdog, Pastor Garafiano, Pastore della Lessinia e del Lagorai, Patterdale Terrier, Pekingese, Perro Majorero, Peruvian Hairless Dog, Petit Basset Griffon Vendéen, Pharaoh Hound, Plummer Terrier, Plott Hound, Polish Greyhound, Porcelaine, Portuguese Water Dog, Pudelpointer, Rajapalayam dog, Rat Terrier, Saarloos wolfdog, Sabueso Español, Saint Miguel Cattle Dog, Šarplaninac, Schipperke, Serrano Bulldog, Shikoku dog, Skye Terrier, Sloughi, Slovak Cuvac, Small Münsterländer, Smithfield (dog), Smooth Collie, South Russian Ovcharka, Spanish Water Dog, Standard Schnauzer, Swedish Vallhund, Tatra Shepherd Dog, Terceira Mastiff, Thai Bangkaew Dog, Tibetan Mastiff, Tibetan spaniel, Tornjak, Weimaraner, Welsh Hound, Welsh Terrier, West Siberian Laika, Westphalian Dachsbracke, Xoloitzcuintle, Xigou
Stub class articles in need of development: Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, Argentine pila dog, Armant (dog), Assyrian Mastiff, Banjara Hound, Billy (dog), Braque Dupuy, Bruno Jura Hound, Bulgarian Scenthound, Ca Rater Mallorquí, Calupoh, Campeiro Bulldog, Can de Chira, Cane Paratore, Cantabrian Water Dog, Chortai, Córdoba fighting dog, Denmark Feist, East European Shepherd, English Shepherd, Faroese Sheepdog, Gończy Polski, Grand Griffon Vendéen, Gull Dong, Hanover Hound, Hygen Hound, Japanese Terrier, Kaikadi (dog), Kars dog, Koyun dog, Kunming dog, Kurdish Mastiff, Levriero Sardo, Mahratta Hound, Majorca Ratter, Maneto, Markiesje, Molossus (dog), Montenegrin Mountain Hound, Rampur Greyhound, Romanian Mioritic Shepherd Dog, Sapsali, Sarabi dog, Schweizer Laufhund, Segugio Maremmano, Segugio dell'Appennino, Sinhala Hound, St. Hubert Jura Hound, Taigan, Tatra Shepherd Dog, Tazy, Toy Bulldog, Treeing Cur, Vikhan Sheepdog, Westphalian Dachsbracke, White Shepherd
Suggested Featured Articles due for re-assessment: Beagle (2007)
Suggested Good Articles due for re-assessment: Swift fox (2008); Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (2009); Clumber Spaniel (2009); Russian Spaniel (2009); Sussex Spaniel (2009)
Requested images: Briquet de Provence, Denmark Feist, Erbi Txakur, Jeju dog, Kaikadi (dog), Kars dog, Koyun dog, Levriero Sardo, Liangshan Dog, Perdigueiro Galego, Segugio dell'Appennino, St. Hubert Jura Hound, Tarsus çatalburun, Tibetan Kyi Apso, Vikhan Sheepdog, Villanuco de Las Encartaciones

Spain Low‑importance

	Spain portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spain, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Spain on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SpainWikipedia:WikiProject SpainTemplate:WikiProject SpainSpain articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

External links

Club and kennel links as well as other informational links should go on the DMOZ page, not on the Wikipedia article page. A page may need to be created at http://www.dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Dogs/Breeds/Molosser_Group/. Look for instructions on the DMOZ page.

Suggestions FEB 2011

To improve upon this article I suggest adding citations that are in English, as well as repairing the two dead links. Changed to stub class article because of verifiability issues. cReep (talk) 06:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move 5 March 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus — Wug·a·po·des 23:50, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

→ Spanish bulldog per WP:USEENGLISH. The book "Canines in Cervantes and Velázquez" refers to the translation of Alano as a bulldog here. William Harristalk 02:58, 5 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. SITH (talk) 12:41, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support – per move nom. Cavalryman (talk) 05:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Support. "Alano" alone seems to be the most common name (as the infobox suggests in "common nicknames"), but since Alano is a disambiguation page, it can't be moved there unless it is clearly the primary topic. "Spanish bulldog" seems the best WP:NATURALDIS. Note Alano espanol and Spanish alano are red. According to this, alanos are not particularly Spanish but only Spanish alanos are called alanos. Now get out of that. 85.238.91.68 (talk) 03:14, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Spanish Bulldog with caps "B" already redirects there. 85.238.91.68 (talk) 03:23, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beautiful looking dogs in the pix, but I don't believe that website is a WP:RELIABLE source. Thanks for the comment. William Harristalk 10:49, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question x2: 1. Where/what is the evidence that the proposed name is the WP:COMMONNAME in reliable English-language sources?; 2. why is "bulldog" lower-case in the proposed title when it is clearly part of the proposed name for the breed, and breed names are capitalised in Wikipedia per long-standing consensus? Please note also "If there are too few reliable English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject ... Portuguese for Brazilian towns ..." and "If an article title has been stable for a long time, and there is no good reason to change it, it should not be changed". Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:32, 2 March 2020 (UTC)Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou for your comments. The proposed move has now been changed from "bulldog" to "Bulldog" as advised. I have now provided 3 reliable secondary sources in the lede of the article rather than one, Google Books provides others, and I believe that your recommendation to do so was wise. A Google search on Spanish Bulldog is also instructive. William Harristalk 06:44, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support It does seem that the Spanish name is somewhat used in English, but not as much as the outright English name, so we should default to that as both COMMONNAME and per WP:USEENGLISH. oknazevad (talk) 14:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question (I've not looked at this in detail): which English name, Oknazevad? The proposed name "Spanish Bulldog" seems little used, with (at first glance) "Spanish Alano" somewhat more frequent. What we'd need to see is evidence that one specific English-language name predominates over the actual name of the breed in English-language reliable sources. So far, that evidence has not been provided. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. According to the Spanish Kennel Club, the official English breed name would be "Spanish Alano". --Canarian (talk) 16:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting note: this relist is to gain consensus on alternatives raised in comments and on the differing views regarding capitalisation. SITH (talk) 12:41, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME, and looks like this name is also the most used in English.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:09, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.