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-- The Fifth Column --

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"A fact from Al-Sinnabra appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 27 March 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: "Did you know ... was originally thought to be a Byzantine-era synagogue?""

Why is it relevant to mention the Jewish angle? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Fifth Column (talk • contribs) 23:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whaw, lets see...because the Jewish Virtual Library still mention the building as a synagogue? Because most othes sites on the net, such as "Biblewalks" ([1])..do the same? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 00:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

surname

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http://www1.tau.ac.il/pressoffice/english/index.php/press-releases/871-1532010%E2%80%8B use the name: "Taufik Deadle of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem"

while http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~semitic/wl/digsites/CLevant/AlSinnabra_08/ use "PhD candidate Taufik Da’adle"

..I assume they are the same person? Cheers Huldra (talk) 20:58, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. DYK that ... the American secret services use a computer algorithm to help decode the many transmutations of Arabic names when transliterated into English? Anyway, the second spelling gives a better sense of the pronunciation in the mother tongue. Tiamuttalk 07:18, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

clarification

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In the section it says "...was discovered just above the granary (AKA the Circles Building)...".

Does "above" in that context relate to archaeological strata, uphill, or otherwise? --Sreifa (talk) 10:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From my understanding, it refers to archaeological strata. Tiamuttalk 13:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

cleanup / Sin

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I think, that for the sake of clarity we need to separate the (history of the) excavations from the archaeology of the site. Any objections?

Also, even though the cited ref says Sin was a sun god, the wikipedia link says Sin is a moon god.--Sreifa (talk) 06:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should go with what the source says since wikipedia is not an RS in and of itself. there is still some information in the history section that should probably be moved to the archaeology section. also, please note that i've restored the original article name since it was moved without discussion and restored the notable information on sinnabra's identity as an islamic qasr and its previous misidentification as a synagogue to the intro. Tiamuttalk 07:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I created Khirbet Kerak and moved information specific to the tell rather than al-Sinnabra/Sennabris there. I believe it is the original and most common name for the tell, Tel Bet Yerah being more recent and less common. Tiamuttalk 18:26, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A quick google gives less than 3000 hits for "al-Sinnabra/Sennabris", over 9000 for "Bet Yerah", and over 10000 for "Khirbet Kerak".--Sreifa (talk) 07:08, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After looking into the subject further, I"ve removed the information from mIlgrom about Sin being a sun god (he is in fact a moon good) and the related information about sennabris being a possible derivation of bet yerah. Tiamuttalk 18:58, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article about the entire site, or just the Qasr?

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Hi Tiamut - The focus of this article, as you have edited it, is not clear - you've started at article called Khirbet Kerak which seems to be more about the site in general, but you've left the general info on the tel in here, as well. both articles refer to the same tel, so they may as well be merged. OR, if this article is only about the qasr, then it should be clarified in the header. --Sreifa (talk) 07:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sreifa. When I first wrote this article, it was about the place name Sinnabra and the qasr of the same name. Then it was changed to be about the tell, which is not called al-Sinnabra, but it is known as Khirbet Kerak or sometimes Bet Yerah. This article is about al-Sinnabra, hellenistic Sennabris, the history of the place associated with that name, including its castle. I created Khirbet Kerak to include information about the tell, including a summary section on al-Sinnabra which links back here. As there was settlement at the tell predating al-Sinnabra and other settlements there like Philoteria-Bet Yerah, unrelated to it, those are better discussed in detail at the page on the tell itself. Is this wrong? Tiamuttalk 16:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO, there should be only one page about the tel, and possibly another page about the qasr (but I'm on the fence about a second page...) It's not clear to me if there was a town that existed together with the qasr, or if it was a military position only. In any case, to write about only part of the history of the settlement seems wrong to me, yes.

In a page about the qasr I would expect to find a more detailed architectural description, or something extra to justify a separate page. --Sreifa (talk) 14:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The sources indicate that al-Sinnabra is often discussed on its own, without reference to the tell. This is probably because it was only confirmed as being situated there in the last decade. Still, the sources do justify having a standalone entry for a place named al-Sinnabra and the qasr of the same name, whose misidentification as a synagogue for several decades prompted voluminous coverage recently. This is information is discussed in mkore detail here than on the page regarding the tell. I think the division is appropriate given the source material of the different subjects. In addition, a lot of literature on Sinnabra has to do exclusively with its history as a place as it appears in literature from the time and not from the tell or associated arachaeological discoveries made there. Tiamuttalk 22:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Etymology of Sennabris

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Is there an origin or etymology that helps translate the meaning of "Sennabris"? It was called Sennabris in Hellenistic times, and I read that at one point Josephus called it something like "Gennabris." I don't know if it's an Aramaic, Hebrew, or Greek-based name. Rakovsky (talk) 03:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Creation of category "EB cities in Southern Levant"

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Please see discussion here. Arminden (talk) 09:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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