Talk:Aircraft interception radar

On 1 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Airborne Interception radar to Aircraft interception radar. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move 1 July 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (closed by non-admin page mover) Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airborne Interception radar → Aircraft interception radar – The article's current title, "Airborne interception radar," is problematic for two reasons. First, the claim that "AI," an abbreviation used throughout the article, stands for "airborne interception" (in terms of radar) is unsourced, and is contradicted by a number of credible sources that state that "AI" has historically stood for "aircraft interception" (see sources below).

The second problem with the original title is that it's misleading and/or confusing. There's an entirely different class of "airborne" radars NOT covered in this article: air-to-surface-vessel (ASV) radar systems, which are designed to detect ships and surfaced submarines, and which are often installed on aircraft. (ASV radars are already covered, appropriately, in a separate article.)

As this change may have significant impact, I'm submitting it as a request rather than making the change directly.

Thanks.

Supporting sources to retitle article to "Aircraft interception radar":

From the first entry in the article's Bibliography (AP1093D: An Introduction Survey of Radar, Part II (PDF). Air Ministry. 1946.)

[opening statement, on page 6:] "Aircraft interception equipment, commonly known as AI [...]".

Henry E. Guerlac, 1987. "Radar in World War II". ISBN 0-88318-486-9. (https://archive.org/details/radarinworldwari0008guer/mode/2up?view=theater)

[from p. 1123, in the glossary:] "AI: Aircraft interception. Radar to detect and trace aircraft from another airplane."

From "A Textbook of Radar". Edited by E.G. Bowen. United Kingdom, Chapman & Hall, 1948. (https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Textbook_of_Radar/K4I8AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA530-IA4&printsec=frontcoverv)

[section title, p. 530:] "Aircraft Interception (AI)"

Norman Fine, (2019). "Blind Bombing: how microwave radar brought the Allies to D-Day". Potomac Books. ISBN 9781640122208.

[page xv:] ABBREVIATIONS AND TERMS

AI aircraft interception

[p. 70:] Influenced greatly by British needs, the initial radar projects — an airborne radar system for aircraft interception (AI) and a gun-laying radar that would track bombers overhead and automatically control the aiming of antiaircraft artillery pointed skyward — were strictly defensive at this time.

[...]

Britain also critically needed an aircraft-to-surface-vessel (ASV) radar system that could locate German U-boats from the air and destroy them before they could dive.

U.S. Radar: Operational Characteristics of Radar Classified by Tactical Application: AI—Aircraft Interception Sets. Joint Chiefs of Staff. 1 August 1943. [...]. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100410000309/http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/radar-8.htm)

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[Chapter heading, pp. 57-60:] AI--Aircraft Interception Sets

.. Marnofaldi (talk) 17:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Aviation has been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.