Talk:Air Hogs

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Didn't they start out with simple stomp-rockets?

There are no Information abaout the CO2 Engine of some modells. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.110.25.20 (talk) 08:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Amusingly...

the article about the Air Hogs line needs work, but the individual articles about Air Hogs products linked in it are fine. And why was one of them 'deleted' and turned into a redirect? (It can still be read by checking the history of the redirect.) Hope that's not the fate of all the separate articles. The Air Hogs[1] and Radio Controlled[2] dedicated wikis are still too small so it falls to Wikipedia to 'hold' the content if it's gonna have wiki articles anywhere on-line. Wish more deletionists would consider that, not necessarily to prevent the deletion, but to recreate the content where it belongs. If they are determined to zap someone's work, then they can at least try to copy & paste it into another wiki. So much easier to destroy than create...

Anyway, there are at least two different kinds of Vectrons and they are awesome! On a day so calm that smoke from a fire goes straight up for hundreds of feet I can get mine to altitudes of 200-300 feet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.254.87.12 (talk) 03:43, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

That's one wish by a great many Wiki-Editors which will NEVER be fulfilled, as long as the editing structure/heirarchy (however you spell that) is as it is. The praise dumped by the dump-truck loads onto very specific, practically useless, & often Wiki-Defeating "jobs", such as vandalism editors, simply encourages those type to purposely look for ANYTHING to edit & then claim it was part of that job. This often brings heaps of those fancy barn-star thingies for these brave "editors" to display on their personal page. And quite often, myself having seen literally HUNDREDS of examples, that "editor" actually isn't trying to improve anything, but only to add 1 more edit to their tally, in that quest for more recognition.

This saddly results in exactly what you mention, senseless deletions, rather than an actual attempt to improve the article. And one other thing that happen to me quite often back when I DID edit with a user-name, is that I would identify a bunch of "stubs" belonging to the same series .... say, maybe trees. I would turn these stubs into actual short-length articles, with actual useful & documented information, rather than just a bunch of mini-pages with no content other than the title & the words "This Is A Stub". Lo & behold, this sudden interest from some editor (me) would make the little bell ring & wake up the Wiki-Cops, who would automatically assume "Vandalism" & revert the entire bunch back to the original stubs, rather than actually making a tiny effort to see if just maybe someone had decided to help improve that whole series of stubs.

That happened at least 3 times with me & the answer was identical each time I confronted the offender for a good reason why he did that. That answer was always, "Oh, I thought it was just someone playing & vandalised them. So you can redo them if you want to", which proved 100% that person didn't even bother to read the new page before jumping on the delete button as hard & fast as he could. All he was interested in was a quick notch on his stats & hopefully a bit closer to another cool looking barn-star.

I served over 13 years in the military, 2 conflicts, & had a whole chest full of ribbons & medals .... the highest being a Silver Star. That's usually the ONLY one I wore, except when my boss would tell me to show up with ALL of them at some dinner or convention or other crap I didn't really want to go to. It would tickle me to see a brand new young private start slobbering all over himself seeing the multiple stacks of color on my Dress Blues. You could just tell their greatest desire was to be a hero 50 times over & look like me some day. When I would pull off that Silver Star & tell them to take it, that would just blow their mind .... WHY!?!? They are so pretty & they mean so much & they show you did alot more stuff than other people & you were better & .... blah, blah, blah. Then my response would be, " ... Yeah, and add 50 cents to all those ribbons & all that crap you just said they proved & then you MIGHT have enough to buy a Coke." THAT'S when they would finally realize the decorations, statistics, position, title, & all that other junk meant absolutely nothing, except to those people whose every action was based on getting himself noticed to add another rung to the ladder leading to their next "attaboy".

We called them "Medal-Chasers", and they were an almost perfect twin to the "Deleters" which infest Wiki like a plague. They would rather see "500 edits made" on their personal page, rather than "55 edits made". That makes them look so much more important than other Wiki-Users, at least in their eyes it does. And it's NOT exactly easy to contribute well documented, well written, & very useful content to Wiki. That takes time & does't make your numbers go up as fast. But it's REALLY easy to just locate a brand new edit, or one on some out-of-the-way page which likely doesn't have a large audience watching it, and then just delete that new content or revert it to the original version. Scratch one more edit onto my tally-sheet. But that means exactly diddly-shit to me. I'd rather see "1 QUALITY Edit" on a personal page, rather than "10,000 Edits". Wonder exactly how "quality" those 10,000 actually were? 90% of people would only need 1 guess to hit the correct answer on that one.

This type of "editor" is practically worthless, since they rarely actually CONTRIBUTE any content, but just perform Cop-Duty on content made by others .... and deleting, as you mentioned, is the very easiest edit you can do on Wiki. And as long as they are being rewarded for it, and they are, then they won't stop. On the contrary, Wiki-Deleters have actually GROWN ... ALOT ... in the many, many years I have used this site. And that's exactly why I rarely edit anymore, and why I NEVER sign in anymore. All that fancy crap you get for doing even worthless "editing" here is of absolutely no interest to me. I got tired of fighting with them by trying to make ARTICLES out of STUBS, which they were dead-set on leaving as they were .... basically nothing.

So yes, as you seem to have noticed also, "Deleters" are alive & VERY active on Wiki. It's the very easiest way to make it appear that you are actually doing something positive, even if you've never truly added one bit of new content to the site, but only appointed yourself as a Wiki-Cop to straighten out content made by others. Maybe that will change someday, but I don't hold my breath waiting. And I long ago gave up actually hoping that most useless part of Wiki would eventually cease. It won't, not as long as it's actually considered beneficial when an "editor" has deleted 499 pieces of content .... but only actually added 1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.159.69.146 (talk) 02:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The current and discontinued products with discontinuation reasons and dates

Can you tell me the current and discontinued products with discontinuation reasons and dates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey (talk • contribs) 05:18, 26 November 2021 (UTC)