Talk:Agua Prieta pipeline

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This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Ashlyn s, Amaninashofry.

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Comments from GSI

• Overall, good job so far! The article is well structured and has good information.

• The first sentence of the second paragraph in the introduction seems redundant to me.

• Do another read through to copy edit and make sure the sentences flow naturally. There are some grammatical errors, including the word “ trEditansportation”?

• You’ve added a few links to other pages, but there is opportunity to add many more. Also, no other articles link to your page - be sure to remedy this.

• Are there any photos, graphics, or maps that could be added to the article as visual aids?

• There needs to be more citations in the article – for example, the sections on similar pipeline struggles, and US and Mexican policy have no citations.

• You’ve got a good start but still need to do some work before you have a finished product. Keep up the good work!

California1990 (talk) 19:55, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Water rights?

This sentence I don't understand the relevance of this sentence:

The conflict focuses on water rights.^[1]

appears to be an artifact of deletion of the original work of the student:

The Yaqui people have previously faced a long history of oppression including frequent droughts, slavery and military attacks. Some call this occurrence, Mexico’s own version of Standing Rock.^[1]

^ ^a ^b Nájar, Alberto (31 August 2015). "Yaquis: los combatientes de la primera guerra del agua en México" (in Spanish). BBC World.

I read over the article and it does establish the Yaqui's conflict with the Mexican government inlcuding "exile, slavery and military attacks", and that the conflicts were over resources including both land and water. (which can be found in our lengthy articles such as Yaqui Wars and Yaqui#History. That article compares the water taken by the aqueduct to supply the capital of Sonora, Hermosillo. I do think the context is useful to our article, although I am not familiar with the Wiki-rules on establishing context with WP:RS that does not directly site to the specific limited subject of the article, in this case, just the pipeline.

In addition, Yaqui's have long faced border crossing issues, since like the Tohono O'odham, the U.S. Mexican border goes through the middle of their ancestral lands. [1] The issues faced by the Yaquis regarding the border imposed by European colonization were described in Leslie Marmon Silko's epic book Almanac of the Dead as mentioned in [2]. There is WP:RS like this about Tohono O'odham and the border wall through their lands. This is exacerbated by Trump's proposed wall [3][4]. Although the Yaqui are not mentioned in that article, other Google search results show Yaquis appear to support the Tohono O'odham's opposition to the wall. Not sure the issue of the wall is appropriate for this article, but the student might find it relevant to their studies of the issues the Yaqui face and maybe something along these lines could be added to one of our other articles. --David Tornheim (talk) 07:15, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it. You're right that the BBC Mundo article doesn't mention the Agua Pieta issue. I recasted the sentence and moved it up to our short background paragraph.

As to the border wall issue - yes, the effects of a potential wall on the Tohono O'odham should definitely be mentioned in some other article, probably Executive Order 13767 (in a new section on reactions from Native peoples). Neutrality^talk 07:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Glad we are on the same page. I might look into adding some of that myself if one of the students doesn't run with it. I know I had researched it before a few months ago when I was reading Silko's book, but I can't remember if I made any changes to the Yaqui, Tohono O'odham or Silko's articles reflecting what I had found. It's unfortunate there is not a single place to put all of this related material, but with more research we might have a better web of articles and connections. I do also think the history portions of both Yaqui and Tohono O'odham articles need much better referencing and possibly some rewriting too. I do hope one of the students is interested in that... It is much work, but they are great researchers, so I'm sure they won't mind. ;) --David Tornheim (talk) 08:49, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[BBC-1] Nájar, Alberto (31 August 2015). "Yaquis: los combatientes de la primera guerra del agua en México" (in Spanish). BBC World.

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